Talk:Demonic Abyss Cylinder

Hey so what is the difference between abyss cyl gem upgrade and common gem upgrade? Can the abyss gem upgrade be added to the common gem upgrade? If not then why pay extra?

This is not an uncommon situation that has to do with how things are structured in the game. There is no difference between them, but one is there simply because it is a cylinder, while the other is there because it is the unique demonic upgrade. Because that amount of money is relatively easy to acquire quickly, you may choose one based on what gems you have available (such as from events).

So far I got the following (5 tries):

• Max Dmg +5, Max HP +4
• Max Dmg +2, Max HP +4
• Max Dmg +5, Max HP +6, Str +20
• Max Dmg +6, Max HP +5, Str +14
• Max Dmg +2, Str +11

Tried once got:

• Max Dmg +3, Max HP +6

hopefully someone finds out there is a water alchemy stat otherwise this artisan is kinda lame considering

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