Talk:Gem Upgrades

HEADSMACK:: realized after I posted this that I forgot about blunts, wands, and ranged weapons. I'll work on those in a bit, I'm pondering how to handle the size issue. -- ladywinter ~{talk page}~ 04:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Shield gems

Can you apply shield jewel upgrades after all upgrade slots are used? --Syklo 15:06, 30 October 2010 (PDT)

I just did the Wand Gem Upgrade 1 for a Crystal Lightning Wand and had both a 5.00cm and 10.00cm Garnet on me when it only needed a 1.00cm+. The upgrade ended up using the 5.00cm instead of the 10.00cm. Would it be safe to say that any gem closest to the exact value the upgrade needs would be used up instead of the highest size you happen to own? If so, I think that would be worth mentioning on this page so that some people don't have to worry about the higher size being used up.

It takes the gem placed nearest to the bottom right of your inventory, I've had many instanced when it took the 10cm one rather than the size closest to the demanded size.

What's the official name used ingame, Gem Upgrade or Jewel Upgrade?

Gem Upgrade

Then why is it that we use the terms Jewels for the Gem Upgrade Pages and Jewels page? Can you delete the redirects so we can move them?

I did a lot of moving & text replaces. Did I miss any?

[1], [2]. I got the rest that you missed, but those are on User Pages and I feel an admin should be the one to do that. Thanks for the adjustments!

When it says you can do a Gem Upgrade at 0~0, does that mean on a non-upgraded item or does it mean as the first Gem Upgrade after the weapon/shield is fully upgraded? If it is before it's upgraded, this won't take up any upgrade slots, right? Also, can you perform the same Gem Upgrade twice for a Shield? This information would also be good to include on this page.

Gem upgrades have their own section, therefore creating a new starting point on upgrades. In other words, first gem upgrade after item is fully upgraded.

Also, many shields have the ability to receive a 2nd gem upgrade, but the same upgrade cannot be done twice. It is a different upgrade.

So would this be a valid upgrade path for a Shield of Avon?

1. Surface Enhancement
2. Avon Shield Special Upgrade 1, 2, or 3
3. Artisan Upgrade
4. Defensive Gem Upgrade
5. Shield of Avon Gem Upgrade

This is probably the only Shield of Avon I'll ever work on so I want to get it right. Also, if the last upgrade was an artisan, and you gem upgrade then undo the artisan upgrade, will that undo the gem upgrade(s)? (Same goes for Special Upgrades for weapons.) If you had only one, and it doesn't disappear, will you not be able to put a second gem upgrade until you put another last upgrade on?

Yes, that is a valid upgrade path. If you gem upgrade after an artisan, you are ineligible to use a artisan removal kit, as the last upgrade would have no longer been the Artisan Upgrade.

Gem Repair of gathering knives/axes is available at all blacksmithing NPCs. Suggesting removal of that in detailed info. Also suggesting removal of the NPC row in Jewel Upgrades on individual pages as the same applies, as far as I know.

Actually, my bad. I saw that Nerys could do the gem upgrade on both the gathering axe and knife, and assumed that the wiki was completely wrong. Hur..

Okay, so I've been trying to upgrade my Dustin Sword, I'll get a Star Sapphire that's over 2 C.M. and it still says I have the wrong Gem Type for the Upgrade, for both upgrades. So... Do you need every Gem listed for the upgrade? Or does your upgrade path effect the type of Jewels you need? As on my Dustin upgrade list the Jewel Upgrade names are different than the names listed on the Dustin Silver Knight Sword page.

Yes, you need every gem for the upgrade.

So, would it be worthwhile to add that to the main page? As I've never heard anything of it before I asked.

I found a couple gem upgrades for tools, though this wiki said there were none previously. I haven't found one for pickaxe yet though, and I've talked to many npc.  :/