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Thread titleRepliesLast modified
"He lost his precious sister"405:35, 15 September 2017
Completing Saga 2 before Saga 1 Daily Bonus016:19, 30 January 2015
Chapter 5216:03, 20 November 2014
Saga 2114:05, 6 October 2014
The Saga: Episode #519:18, 12 June 2014
Found out a bug116:19, 18 April 2014
Season 21221:21, 29 December 2013
Exp Total per EP?423:05, 8 November 2013
Daily, September 21, 2013812:45, 23 September 2013
Listing monsters423:52, 16 August 2013
Permanency of saga episode boxes1303:33, 13 August 2013
missing npc with saga quest active?223:53, 12 August 2013
"You may only obtain up to 1 Saga EP Box a day for all episodes."1723:08, 12 August 2013
Seriously1723:07, 12 August 2013
Seriously?016:51, 7 August 2013
"of"1320:45, 9 July 2013

"He lost his precious sister"

If "sister" has been acknowledged as a text error, why does it link to Triona? Should the link be removed?

Lalunae (talk)09:32, 8 September 2017

Different editors probably. It'd be funny if it linked to Rian lol. Triona is definitely not a real sister but if it's talking about her contextually it may have been "she was like a sister to me". I don't really remember, though.

Kadalyn (talk)18:47, 8 September 2017

She may have been to him, however he didn't lose her to Esras. Esras died before her, heh. Everything points back to Rian so it was definitely a mistake on whoever was responsible for translating the script's part. O.o

Either way, the sentence totally threw me off. Should a footnote to indicate that it's an text error be placed in the trivia tag?

Lalunae (talk)09:42, 12 September 2017

Typically you indicate these sorts of errors with a <sup>[sic]</sup> after the issue (sister) and you can do a MouseoverBox if you want, like {{MouseoverBox|<sup>[sic]</sup>|brother}}.

If it's mentioning Esras then I definitely agree it means Rian, so it probably should link to Rian...

Kadalyn (talk)11:31, 14 September 2017

Whoa. I forgot about Mouseover boxes. Thanks for the tip! I'm definitely going to do that. Also, yup; the link is going to lead to Rian instead now.

Lalunae (talk)05:35, 15 September 2017
 
 
 
 

Completing Saga 2 before Saga 1 Daily Bonus

What would happen if one were to complete a Saga 2 Episode before completing Saga 1 daily? Would the bonus effect remain or disappear?

EDIT: Completed a Saga 2 Episode 2 and the Saga 1 dailies were still highlighted.

Infodude575 (talk)16:08, 17 November 2014

Nexon seems to acknowledge G19 as Chapter 6 already, and we know where chapter 4 ended. So on the front page, can't the saga be noted as Chapter 5?

Willi096 (talk)14:45, 20 November 2014

I don't think they officially said Saga = Chapter 5. But I'd write it as "The Saga / Chapter 5"

Infodude575 (talk)15:05, 20 November 2014

I was thinking something like that. I'm for it, anyways.

Willi096 (talk)16:03, 20 November 2014
 
 

Since it's coming out very soon, what do we do with them and what do we call them? List them on this page? Call them "The Saga 2: Episode blah blah blah"?

Infodude575 (talk)18:29, 3 October 2014

Bump. The update is tonight; the first episode gets released on friday, October 10th.

Infodude575 (talk)14:05, 6 October 2014
 

The Saga: Episode #

I thought it was discussed somewhere that there would be more sagas after Iria? If so, wouldn't the episode page names kinda conflict/become ambiguous?

^^^^ This This This and THis....

まそっぷ ! (talk)14:24, 18 August 2013
 

Mass text-replace after we get the first signs of another Saga from Korea? I don't think there's any storyline coming with the Dream update though I could be wrong.

Oneris (talk)15:06, 18 August 2013
 

They plan on adding more episodes pertaining to Iria, no evidence of another Saga or if it is a separate tab, if it will be called Saga (or Drama). Lets wait until they release another Drama/Saga to worry about renaming the Saga again.

Pyro - (Talk)15:19, 18 August 2013
 

I figured the Saga wasn't over since Ruairi and the Cessair are still around. But Young Tarlach in Uladh (right next to Berched if I'm not mistaken) gives me the impression they're moving their plans to Uladh. Plus we're still missing Tory Ravine.

Infodude575 (talk)16:40, 18 August 2013
 

Reviving this thread. So korea released 7 new episodes called "The Drama: Iria 2" (where the first one was also called "The Drama: Iria" and was later renamed "The Saga: Iria" in NA).
We may want to do this later when it actually does come out, but currently, the episode pages are named like:

  • The Saga: Episode 1 - Fate's Origin: The Demon

Which would be conflicting unless NA decides to call the second one "The Drama: Iria" instead of "The Saga: Iria 2".

What I suggest is renaming them to something like "Iria: Episode 1 - Fate's Origin: The Demon", where "The Saga:" is replaced with "Iria:". If the second update is called "The Saga: Iria 2", then those episodes would start with "Iria 2:"

Either way, this would cause conflict in all scenarios unless the new saga/drama/whatever doesn't start with "The Saga" in its name. (Or if they decide to use a term other than Episode for the second quest chain, but it would still be confusing for the wiki readers.)

Kapra - (Talk)19:17, 12 June 2014
 

Found out a bug

I found out a bug. When fighting Cessair's Heart, if you kille her while mounted on a pet using archery (so this happens to elves) sh will disappear, but the Shadow Mission won't go on, and so you'll be forced to exit and redo it again. I had a female elf on a Cosmic Stallion. Can anyone confirm they get the same bug with these conditions?

Superveemon (talk)13:57, 18 April 2014

Just did everything you did and no bug.

Yinato (talk)16:19, 18 April 2014
 

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Huh, interesting. So that's what the Hero mascots are for. I wonder how Kid Tarlach will play in here now.

Infodude575 (talk)16:34, 17 December 2013

I thought season 2 would of come out earlier , I did try to add it to this page. so Anyways it been comfirmed by Korean Mabinogi that season 2 is coming o.o http://mabinogi.nexon.com/C3/News/Update.asp?mode=view&ReadSn=4881943

Kakachi (talk)18:53, 27 December 2013

Lets wait two, at least one, month after it comes out in KR live (not KR test) to add any info on any update to the wiki. Last time somebody jumped the gun, everything changed.

Kapra - (Talk)23:09, 27 December 2013
 

Lets hold off adding information for now and wait until its out.

Infodude575 (talk)18:54, 27 December 2013

lol all I did back then was add season to to the table of the iria quest links, I want start freaking people out :O

Kakachi (talk)18:59, 27 December 2013
 

Ironically, he's the person who "freaked out".

Ikkisuki (talk)19:07, 27 December 2013
 

I want to freak everyone out :D

Kakachi (talk)19:12, 27 December 2013
 

Oh good. I actually wanted to see the three's background more. Microphone's description obviously shows relation between her and Merlin.

Shotarlach and Ruairi are obviously fan service about now.

Sakura502 (talk)20:40, 27 December 2013
 

Aren't there actually five? One for Master Chef and another for Treasure Hunter?

I have a feeling that Tarlach was warning us about them.

Infodude575 (talk)12:17, 29 December 2013

Do they even have a mascot? As far as I know they don't, so it may just be an add for the skills.

Sakura502 (talk)17:08, 29 December 2013
 

They have a mascot, they just don't have as much in-depth detail on the character's background. Also, the treasure hunter's final design was still being determined when we first saw her, he was originally a female elf. Korea did say that there will be a new storyline featuring the three heroes, and master chef and treasure hunter will also make "an appearance", implying they aren't as important but are still notable. Lets just wait and see what happens before setting any judgements in stone.

Kapra - (Talk)20:10, 29 December 2013
 

This could be me but it looks like they used a Milletian as a model for Treasure Hunter's mascot.

Infodude575 (talk)20:19, 29 December 2013
 

Didn't they do that for all the heroes? Using a player character model as opposed to a nao-esque model? Except in Master Chef's unique case, but the female version uses a female giant.

Kapra - (Talk)21:21, 29 December 2013
 
 

Exp Total per EP?

Maybe in a nice chart or box or something...do not included daily bonus though.

まそっぷ ! (talk)17:48, 8 November 2013

nevermind, I forgot about SM exp and varying difficulties...

まそっぷ ! (talk)19:21, 8 November 2013
 

Well we could still make a chart, just a more complex one. I actually was thinking of this, it's a great idea.

Pyro - (Talk)22:07, 8 November 2013
 

Shouldn't we also be doing it for the rest of the gens, like how G1 lists total EXP, gold, and AP?

Infodude575 (talk)22:45, 8 November 2013
 

It would have to be table, so it includes different difficulties. And we'd also need to compare different episodes on a central page.

Pyro - (Talk)23:05, 8 November 2013
 

Daily, September 21, 2013

Saga All Daily.png

Today, ALL TEN episodes were marked for daily. Isn't it supposed to be just two?

Infodude575 (talk)08:26, 21 September 2013

Probably on weekdays there are 2 consecutive episodes marked as daily (1&2 for Monday, 3&4 for Tuesday, etc.) and on weekends all of them are counted as daily to help people that can play only on weekends and to have easy formula for determining dailies on any given day.

Itachin (talk)08:38, 21 September 2013
 

Itachin's hypothesis seems reasonable, but lets wait until we can confirm after a week to say anything on the page.

Pyro - (Talk)11:31, 21 September 2013
 

What were the dailies on Wednesday? I missed that.

Infodude575 (talk)11:33, 21 September 2013

I believe they were 5 and 6, though I'm not too sure.

Side question: would it be possible to add a daily episodes table to the main page like what's currently there for shadow missions?

Lrcp (talk)14:46, 21 September 2013
 

We're considering doing that.

Infodude575 (talk)14:48, 21 September 2013
 

While we're on the discussion of template, if what Itachin says turns out to be true, is it possible to have the template automatically re-orient itself to that day's dailies without the need of us touching it every day?

Infodude575 (talk)09:48, 23 September 2013
 

At minimum, if it not being automatic, it should be possible to have us manaully write the day of the week in the template, or at the beginning of each month say things like "the 29th will be a thursday" and it'll just read off the shadow missions template like that.

Pyro - (Talk)12:05, 23 September 2013
 

Imo, such an addition to the template is useless, so... have fun.

 
 

Listing monsters

How about instead of

  1. Talk to Akule again. You will be taken into the Shadow Mission "Searching for Millia".

We instead do

  1. Talk to Akule again. You will be taken into the Shadow Mission "Searching for Millia".
Pyro - (Talk)18:41, 16 August 2013

Or make a SM page, where they should be :c

 

Ya, that'd be good too, as long as it's not "then, then, then, oh and then".

Pyro - (Talk)18:51, 16 August 2013
 

Wherever we put them, the spawn pattern notes should match the format of the dungeon spawn pattern details on dungeon pages.

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)23:21, 16 August 2013
 

They should be on both. And I suppose Pyrus's suggestion is good.

Infodude575 (talk)23:52, 16 August 2013
 

Permanency of saga episode boxes

Has it been confirmed if the saga boxes and the demonic weapons/ medals/ coupons are going to be a permanent thing?

Or is their availability an undocumented event and we will stop getting boxes after g18 is over?

Malachar (talk)23:00, 9 August 2013

If its not permanent I'll rage and rant.

Infodude575 (talk)23:07, 9 August 2013
 

No evidence it is permanent, no evidence to think otherwise either. Guess we'd just have to wait and see if they ever remove them, which I doubt they would.

Pyro - (Talk)02:22, 10 August 2013
 

What did they do in KR and JP, after all 10 episodes were released?

Infodude575 (talk)10:23, 10 August 2013
 

JP didn't have saga boxes, and KR's system was completely different. Let me quote a conversation:

Kapra: In KR, each episode of G18 had a chance for three different demonics, not just 1, and episode 5~10 had a chance of a rare weapon like black mask staff.
Kapra: BUT in KR, you could get crappy rewards like 20 SP 30s, and you had to pay nx to redo an episode, not gold.
Kapra: In JP, E1-10 ONLY gave 20 AP first time you did it, repeating gets you nothing
Kapra: JP got these weapons in a gachapon
Kapra: In NA, E1~10 eachs has 1 demonic, 1 medal, and a saga coupon. You get 20+1.2 AP first time you do it plus a gaurneteed 1.2 AP each repeat, repeating costs gold, not nx. Andif you do all 10 episodes, you get another 100 AP and a battle pegasus pet
Pyro - (Talk)12:14, 10 August 2013
 

Who's Kapra?

Infodude575 (talk)12:41, 10 August 2013

I am? I copy-pasted from an IM.

Pyro - (Talk)13:10, 10 August 2013
 

Ah. Anyway, is the system in KR still there?

Infodude575 (talk)13:15, 10 August 2013
 

I'll get back to you on this, but I don't think they would remove it since it is like an everlasting gachapon in which you actually work for you reward.

Pyro - (Talk)23:11, 10 August 2013
 
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It should be permanent, what are you saying? You get the transformation coin and a demonic weapons, but they are rare. Mostly you get the saga viewing coupons and fixed 12 AP coupons I think or 10 idk. But if you do get a demonic weapon or a NPC transformation coin. They are yours permanently for keeps and you can either use it or sell them at high good price. Neat isn't it?!

And generally about the boxes as I didn't quite read the headings clearly, well the EP# boxes are permanent, but you get them once a day. So it's daily. Now idk if you can get all the other boxes on the same days by completing other episodes of G18, that's what I'm heavily curious about.

Sunbeam - (Talk)22:17, 12 August 2013

Well yes of course, that wasn't in question at all? He was asking if they plan to do a dick move and remove the episode boxes after the saga is over (I mean, japan already did an even worse move, as I previously pointed out).

Pyro - (Talk)22:44, 12 August 2013
 

Also, your signature must include a [[User:Yourusername]] link, unless that policy was removed. Even if the page doesn't exist yet. (And seeing as how you have only been on talk pages, I don't think you're even able to make one yet, not that you cannot if you try to contribute.)

Pyro - (Talk)22:45, 12 August 2013

My apology with my signature, there I fixed it. Well that somewhat stupid of Japan. But for North America as I'm playing Mabinogi on currently, I am sure they won't remove the Episode Boxes. Hopefully not. But the saga is almost reaching towards the final end. About 3 more episodes to go.

Sunbeam - (Talk)23:05, 12 August 2013

No, you did not fix it. Your signature links to "User:Sunbeam007" instead of "User:Sunbeam".

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)03:33, 13 August 2013
 
 
 
 

missing npc with saga quest active?

where should we add missing npc with saga quest active? npc like Interim Engineer , hector are missing when saga episode are being watched.

Yahoodotcom (talk)17:52, 12 August 2013

Probably both this page and the Episode's page.

Infodude575 (talk)18:04, 12 August 2013
 

It's most relevant on the npc's page, and should also be mentioned in the details of the specific quests where they disappear or reappear, and in a warning near the top of the page, probably just above the NPC table(outside the spoiler box if we're keeping those).

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)18:13, 12 August 2013
 

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Return to Thread:Talk:Generation 18: The Saga of Iria/"You may only obtain up to 1 Saga EP Box a day for all episodes.".

Maybe it resets at 6PM on fridays, too? Because I did E2 first then E1 yesterday, and I didn't get a reward for E1. Today I'm trying to do E1 first then E2, see if E2 gives a reward.

Pyro - (Talk)17:34, 6 July 2013

Ditto. I'm definitely sure it resets at 6PM unless, Infodude, when you did E1 before 6PM then did E2 after 6PM, did you get the E2 reward box or ONLY the saga completion box? It might also be that you have a 100% chance of getting both first tiem you do it, regardless of day.

Pyro - (Talk)17:59, 6 July 2013
 

I got both the E2 and Saga Box.

Infodude575 (talk)18:53, 6 July 2013
 

I redid and finished EP1 right after EP2 was released, then began and finished EP2, and got both Saga Boxes.

Oneris (talk)18:20, 6 July 2013
 

Then most likely, it's that first time you do it, your guaranteed to get an episode box as well, even if you already did an episode before. That being said, next Friday, do either E1 or E2 before E3 to get the most rewards.

Pyro - (Talk)20:09, 6 July 2013
 

Actually, now that I think of it, this may have been a glitch. Has anyone tested if it was changed after this last bug fix maint?

Pyro - (Talk)12:45, 8 July 2013
 

What makes you cry "bug"?

Infodude575 (talk)13:35, 8 July 2013
 

Why not? It could be a bug for all we know, not saying it is. This is a NA-first version, when isn't there bugs?

Pyro - (Talk)13:45, 8 July 2013
 

I'll run both later, but it would make sense if this weren't a bug. I mean, it'd make little sense if you were able to get 10 Saga Viewing Coupons a day once all 10 episodes come out. 10 Nao stones a day.. 3 dyes a day.. etc.. Doesn't seem very nexon to give out stuff like that.

Besides, I'm quite sure the patch was to address some more special upgrade issues.

 

Okay I'm very curious about the Episode (#) boxes, do you really get them once a day? For instance if I finished G18 part 6 and got the EP6 boxes then I do G18 part 5... Will I get the EP5 box on the same day??? That is my absolute question of curiosity there. That bothers me since it said that you can only obtain one EP box a day. I recalled doing G18 part 2 and then redo G18 part 1 to se if I can get two boxes on same day, but I only got EP2 box. So I received only one box and not the box from completing G18 part 1.

I am the top best Mabinogi A+ superior gamer ever!22:23, 12 August 2013

If it is the first time doing G18E6 today, you will get the E6 box. Afterwards, you will not get any other Saga EP box UNLESS it is the FIRST TIME playing the episode.

Well I already did Episode 7 for G18 and got the Ep7 box. I'm asking is if I do other episodes will I get another EP# box from finishing the others??? On the same day.

Sunbeam - (Talk)22:33, 12 August 2013
 

Here's the Dealio:

  • You get one box per day unless its the first time you finished it. Example: If you redo Episode 5, you get an Episode 5 box, and if you start and finish Episode 6 on the same day, you get an Episode 6 Box.
  • You only get one box a day for redoes. Example: If you redo Episode 5, you get an Episode 5 box, but if you redo Episode 6 on the same day, you do not get an Episode 6 box.
Infodude575 (talk)22:33, 12 August 2013

Oh okay, thanks a lot. Honestly I find it quite confusing.

Sunbeam - (Talk)22:35, 12 August 2013
 
 
 

Umm, are you kidding me? Each episode is like the length of a full-scale generation quest, we're not going to have 10 generations on ONE page. O .o

Pyro - (Talk)02:00, 19 June 2013

So each ep is around 10~ 15 quests o-o? that's around a full scale generation.

まそっぷ ! (talk)15:00, 20 June 2013
 

Yep. . .

Pyro - (Talk)16:58, 20 June 2013
 

Couldn't we just....tab the pages e-e?

まそっぷ ! (talk)17:05, 20 June 2013
 

Tab meaning?

Pyro - (Talk)17:10, 20 June 2013

I think she means setting up a tab interface and having a tab per episode.

 

Oh, I guess that'd be okay but the page would get really long (unless we transclude) and I'm not sure if we'd be able to link to individual quests in a tab.

Pyro - (Talk)17:13, 20 June 2013

If you transclude (which would probably happen if all episodes are merged) and want to link to a specific quest, you could link to the page which the quest is on, rather than the entire generation page.

 

True on the linking to individual pages part. Though I'm not sure what you mean by "merged", do you mean put them all under the same page?

Also, just to clarify something, you don't even have to do the episodes in order, you can do them at the same time too, I believe. It's just that all ten require Shamala and Nightmare to be completed and not all ten episodes are released at once.

But ya, transcluding under tabs sounds fine.

Pyro - (Talk)17:25, 20 June 2013
 

Yeah that.

まそっぷ ! (talk)17:13, 20 June 2013
 

WhatutalkinboutG18E2sofingshort!

Infodude575 (talk)19:52, 5 July 2013

You know...3 quests hardly sums up "full scale" e-e EP1 was rather short since most of the time you do mroe talking than fighting...and a lot of gathering...oh god...the tails...*sees alexina smeared bleach* Sorry you had to fail D:!

EP2 was straight out short...too short that I did a re run (for exp...to hell with the box for EP2) and after confronting those....god awful lichs...Oh no, the lichs, STAY AWAY D: *consumed by lich mob* ...it only took around an hour...are you sure these things get...Longer...?

まそっぷ ! (talk)20:23, 5 July 2013

Be glad its not Ferghus doing it.

Infodude575 (talk)23:59, 5 July 2013
 

I agree, these were surprisingly short, people said they were longer. But I still think they each deserve their own page. But transclusion is still fine in my opinion.

Pyro - (Talk)23:52, 5 July 2013
 

Maybe at some point they will get longer, since its 10 episodes and 1 sidestory. Yeah. lets keep them separate.

Infodude575 (talk)10:03, 6 July 2013
 
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Last edit: 22:14, 12 August 2013

Well G18 cuts it down to short episodes instead because, doing big sets of G18 in one big generations is going to be tedious! So they simply made it short. But they added EP# box and once you finished up the episodes on first time you get the AP box. Neat I say. I'm happy about it. And the EP# box resets around 7:00 AM PDT/PST daily.

Sunbeam - (Talk)22:14, 12 August 2013

Why do you keep bumping old threads with no new information?. . .

Pyro - (Talk)22:49, 12 August 2013
 
 

Seriously?

Scroll down to the end of the NPCs in the Transformation Diary.

Everyone is nothing more than a god damn actor/actress? Is this G13 and 14 all over again?

Infodude575 (talk)16:51, 7 August 2013

I have never seen that word in there... Where did it come from?

Infodude575 (talk)18:16, 28 June 2013

Probably just rewording from KR's name, maybe a hyphen would be better?

Pyro - (Talk)13:59, 29 June 2013
 

Yeah I think that would be better.

Infodude575 (talk)14:02, 29 June 2013
 

In the official name, it's a colon, but that might not work right on the wiki.

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)19:24, 29 June 2013
 

Mm, can we decide on this already? Because "of" is not official.

Infodude575 (talk)15:55, 6 July 2013
 

Colon is good, lets go with that.

Pyro - (Talk)17:52, 6 July 2013
 

Is there like an escape sequence that can be used to include a colon in a page's name?

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)18:27, 6 July 2013
 

This page already includes a colon in its name...

 

Hm, "Generation 18 - The Saga: Iria" or Generation 18: The Saga - Iria"? Blah.

Infodude575 (talk)18:54, 6 July 2013

So far, the generation pages have been named "Generation ##: officialName", and the official name is The Saga: Iria, so if we're to keep the current naming pattern and use the exact official name, then it's "Generation 18: The Saga: Iria".

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)19:40, 6 July 2013
 

Apparently its colon or comma in the patches page though...

Infodude575 (talk)17:14, 8 July 2013

Yea, the patches page sections separate the gen # from the name with hyphens. Don't change g18 on that page unless you're going to redo the entire page for the new style.

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)18:50, 8 July 2013
 

I'm awfully lazy but there needs to be consistency, no?

Infodude575 (talk)18:56, 8 July 2013

There is consistency. It's consistently version A in page titles, and consistently version B on that page's subsection titles.

Sozen Cratos Focker (talk)20:45, 9 July 2013