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Meteor strike training "abuse"?

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Would you kindly point out where it is established that attacking Cremena is "abusable" and should not be mentioned as a viable way to train meteor strike?

    Dias (talk)11:28, 8 April 2014

    Erm, I think it was somewhere in Talk:Meteor Strike, or its edit history, or somehow it just popped into my head... I don't remember.

    However, before we make hasty movements, lets talk about whether we should put it back in or not. Even though its minor, it can be abused to some extent.

      Infodude575 (talk)16:12, 8 April 2014
       

      Crumena is a dragon/field boss. Crumena can be accessed in G8 final. G8 final can be repeated if it is not finished. Using these facts and basic logic, you can easily figure out that Crumena is the easiest way to access a dragon if you have access to G8 final. I don't remember anything mentioning that using Crumena as a target was "abuse". In fact, if it was considered abuse, why would devCat even allow it as a target for meteor training in the first place? You'd think they built a list of monsters that count rather than a list of monsters that don't count.

        Blargel (talk)17:02, 8 April 2014
         

        How do we know that Crumena was meant to be a trainable target? The Saga: Iria dragons aren't trainable targets for who knows why (I have no idea about the one in Aces).

          Infodude575 (talk)17:22, 8 April 2014
           

          It's impossible to know the developers' intentions. However, I still stand by my opinion that it is not abuse. The Saga dragons are the only dragons that don't count and probably the only reason why is because they can't actually be defeated in a story battle, making them count as NPCs rather than bosses or dragons.

            Blargel (talk)17:30, 8 April 2014
             

            Mm, I would say that they probably didn't want to make it easy to train. But that's just baseless conjecture on my part, so I'll concede.

              Infodude575 (talk)17:37, 8 April 2014

              Baseless conjecture... Man. I don't even...

                Ikkisuki (talk)03:03, 9 April 2014
                 

                Go away. Your useless comment and bump annoys me.

                  Infodude575 (talk)11:26, 9 April 2014

                  Don't worry; I'm leaving. Your aura of stupidity is quite repulsive on its own.

                    Ikkisuki (talk)20:59, 9 April 2014
                     
                     

                    I too think that it's not really abuse. It's just another training method and it's not confirmed if it's even a glitch. And MAYBE, just MAYBE Crumena counts because he has the Meteor Skill.

                      Nise Panda (talk)17:38, 8 April 2014
                       

                      I don't even think G8 Finale spam is considered abuse considering the little amount of access people have with that. Not to mention the sheer difficulty of going alone (I mean, I can solo it, but that's me 8D).

                        Well, a countermeasure was put for Jenna's 100% repair which "little amount of access people have with"...

                          Infodude575 (talk)13:31, 9 April 2014
                           

                          Well played....well played.

                             

                            If they have time to patch Jenna in case of a 100% repair event that rarely ever happens, but they don't have the time to patch Crumena to not count for Meteor Strike training. Then something is wrong with their priorities. Or Crumena counting as training isn't abuse.

                              Blargel (talk)14:15, 9 April 2014
                               

                              I fail to see how it could be considered abuse. I've yet to see anyone with a party up looking for g8 final just for training purposes, and even I were to suddenly see a cluster of party ads for that, the cooldown on meteor would still make it a time-consuming process.

                                Yinato (talk)09:08, 10 April 2014

                                Field dragons don't spawn every 30 minutes. Crumena, you can just enter once the cooldown goes away.

                                  Infodude575 (talk)09:39, 10 April 2014
                                   
                                   
                                  -blah blah- 30 minutes. -blah blah- once the cooldown goes away
                                   

                                   

                                  Just going to throw a few numbers out.

                                  Assumptions

                                  • you're using magic/druid talent
                                  • you've completed all other training requirements (which would also take a few hours)
                                  • Crumena doesn't troll your ass by flying up during that 5 second period before impact
                                  • you are on g8 final

                                  Just for the smack a dragon training requirement, getting to the next rank/getting the master title would take a minimum of:

                                  • 4 hours at r3
                                  • 5 hours at r2
                                  • 75 hours for master title


                                  Sooo, with all that in mind...do you still think it can possibly be seen as "abusable"?

                                    Yinato (talk)10:50, 10 April 2014
                                     
                                     

                                    He's already conceded when he re-added Crumena to the training tips section. We don't really need to continue discussions about this.

                                      Blargel (talk)10:50, 10 April 2014

                                      Oh, skipped that entire part when I saw the whole info-kevin thing starting up (as usual) lol.

                                        Yinato (talk)10:55, 10 April 2014