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10:22, 27 June 2014 WhitePass (talk | contribs) Comment text edited  
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http://mabinogi.nexon.net/News/Announcements/1/00HsI

 
 
Mabinogi's Ultimate Anime Summer isn't just about awesome events and cool prizes—it's also marks the start of our New Beginnings revamp, where we'll be improving several systems and features.
 

 

And let me put emphasis on.

 
 
the start of our New Beginnings revamp
 

 

Nise Panda (talk)18:39, 26 June 2014

I have been patient but now it seems you guys are being plain unreasonable just to create conflict. Merlin is to New Beginnings as Aces is to Ultimate Anime Summer. How ridiculous the name they put may be, that does not change the fact.

Kapra - (Talk)20:03, 26 June 2014
 
 
 
I have been patient but now it seems you guys are being plain unreasonable just to create conflict.
 

 

Pot...kettle...black...moving on.


The event is called Ultimate Anime Summer, which spans for most of the summer. During that time, the revamp titled "New Beginnings" is to be released (as well as other updates).

Yinato (talk)20:14, 26 June 2014
 

Except you know, Nexon actually called it "Mabinogi Aces: Merlin", without any further details.

> Implying you're not unreasonable. > Implying you don't just create conflict.

Nise Panda (talk)20:18, 26 June 2014
 

I create conflict but not with the intention of being unreasonable.

Why is this different than Merlin?

Kapra - (Talk)23:00, 26 June 2014
 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH. Yeah, dude, no.

"Except you know, Nexon actually called it "Mabinogi Aces: Merlin", without any further details."

Nise Panda (talk)23:26, 26 June 2014
 

"Why is this different than Merlin?" Seriously.

Kapra - (Talk)23:38, 26 June 2014

"Except you know, Nexon actually called it "Mabinogi Aces: Merlin", without any further details."

I'm just going to keep repeating that, till you piece the OP and this together.

Nise Panda (talk)00:25, 27 June 2014
 

I am not quite sure what you mean by "further details" but the links I posted below clearly show that they used "Ultimate Anime Summer: New Beginnings".

You're a moderator, please try to act a little more maturely, even if at times I or someone else make that mistake.

Kapra - (Talk)00:28, 27 June 2014
 
 
 
Mabinogi's Ultimate Anime Summer isn't just about awesome events and cool prizes—it's also marks the start of our New Beginnings revamp, where we'll be improving several systems and features.
 

 

And let me put emphasis on.

 
 
the start of our New Beginnings revamp
 

 

Further. Details. I don't understand how much more specific I can get.

Nise Panda (talk)00:53, 27 June 2014
 

When people ask for clarity, you don't just copy paste what you already said.

Either way, I am still convinced that this should be enough proof to explain why it is "Ultimate Anime Summer: New Beginnings". I am fine with removing that prefix from the updates section of the front page so long as we remove other prefixes as well.

Kapra - (Talk)00:56, 27 June 2014
 
  • Nexon calls Merlin update specifically "Mabinogi Aces: Merling" without anything else added.
  • Nexon specifically calls it "New Beginnings revamp".

Mika and I are repeating the same thing over and over again, just in different ways.

Edit: and since I guess that news bar thing whatever leads to the event page, the events are also "New Beginnings"!

Nise Panda (talk)01:05, 27 June 2014
 

Thank you, that's much clearer now. So we're basing it on if Nexon ever shortens the name?

That makes no sense to me and highly disagree with that but if we're going to be pulling hairs like that then:

Why would we base the criteria on if they ever said the names alone and not in a full title that was provided?

If I'm still not getting it, sorry. I'm not stupid but I may be slow. I need things to be clearly explained, not have the same quote being constantly repeated.

@Nise's Edit

I 100% agree with that. Many update titles are both the name of updates and events.
Kapra - (Talk)01:24, 27 June 2014
 

Get me a Maintenance report about the recent content and I'll be on board with using Maintenance reports as further proof(or whatever you would call it). They never mention events and stuff like that in there, things could easily be modified and or simply not mentioned.

Nise Panda (talk)01:32, 27 June 2014
 

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The update wasn't mentioned at all in the post, not as "Ultimate Anime Summer", "Ultimate Anime Summer: New Beginnings", or "New Beginnings".
Albeit, unlike the previous three cases, the content for Regeneration/New Beginnings was already in our pack files for a while before official release. I'm not sure if that's what they had in mind for not including it in the maintenance notes, but they probably just wanted to make the update a surprise as they didn't announce it anywhere else either other than ominous logos of something coming who knows when.

My point was, saying only part of the update's name or saying its full name won't change what its full name is. I see no reason why this doesn't already prove that it is Ultimate Anime Summer: New Beginnings.

Kapra - (Talk)01:42, 27 June 2014
 

Sorry that felt immature, I'll instead say this:

Kapra - (Talk)23:52, 26 June 2014

New Beginnings is clearly bolded in the body of the patch notes. Ultimate Anime Summer is the giant 10 Week Even name that Nexon is hosting. There is no way in hell I (or anyone that matters) would associate "Ultimate Anime Summer" as part of the header for the current update. It should stay as "New Beginnings" and nothing more.

 

Neither of which change the fact that it is Ultimate Anime Summers: New Beginnings. (And Aces was also an "event", as is Ultimate Anime Summer.) There really is no arguing here. I don't like that they named it that way but that is their business, not mine. We need to use their names.

Kapra - (Talk)00:10, 27 June 2014
 

As NisePanda clearly stated, Nexon did not denote "Merlin Update" by any other term. In the patch notes for the current update, it is clearly bolded as I stated earlier; Even Yinato said so.

If it sounds like we are be hostile, we're really not. We're trying to explain as thoroughly as possible, but clearly, it's not working. I have no words left to say.

 

Look at the link I previously gave, they said "Mabinogi Aces: Merlin". Is that not what we're referring to?

Edit: @Lexis's Edit

You don't seem very hostile but Nise Panda does, particularly:
 
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH. Yeah, dude, no.

"Except you know, Nexon actually called it "Mabinogi Aces: Merlin", without any further details."
 


 

I honestly don't understand what you guys are trying to explain. I'm sorry if I'm not getting it. As far as I understand, I don't see why the post with both the links doesn't suffice.
Kapra - (Talk)00:29, 27 June 2014

I am convinced that you didn't read the first post I made.

Nise Panda (talk)00:53, 27 June 2014
 

Nise's hostility stems from dealing with you and your attempts to justify your views (not trying to sounds insulting. just being blunt).


Bottom line is that the ultimate anime summer event is just that: an event. If culinary artist was released at the same time as the doki doki event, would it have been doki doki: culinary artist? nope. The anime summer event will eventually end, but the "new beginnings" revamp won't.

Yinato (talk)07:19, 27 June 2014
 

I agree there is ambiguity in NexonNA's naming conventions, but it is also true as both Mikaya and Yinato have stated it. Culinary Artist is an Ace Talent, and should have been named as the last entry in the Aces batch of updates (Aces: Culinary Artist). We are getting "New Beginnings" content as a part of our "Ultimate Anime Summer" event for 2014. For consistency of nomenclature across version, I think it is best to separate event names with actual content titles as best we can. This is not a valuable detail, and is certainly not worth this much effort in defense.

Shroom Fonzerelli (talk)10:22, 27 June 2014