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Color Coding

Some spreadsheeting has shown these errors (they're on the pages for all races, but I'll point it out here since the discussion seems most active):

  1. Heat Buster: Totals here and on skill page are off due to addition error at R4->R3.
  2. Enthralling Performance: Same, but error at C->B.
  3. Lightning Shield: Same; error at 6->5.
  4. Party Healing: 2->1 cost is listed as 15, not 30. Total AP and values on its skill page are consistent though.

Also it's kinda confusing to have the existing musical skills listed once under the life tab, and a second time as unimplemented (due to being grouped with bard skills). owo;

Meowmeow09:02, 22 June 2012

Quick question: If you noticed that the math was off (and for some of them, it's only off by 1), couldn't you have just made the changes yourself?

Yinato12:49, 22 June 2012
 

I would just fix it myself, if I had the original source of the numbers. I thought it may be wiser to bring the discrepancy to the attention of someone who can look them up for sure, though, rather than assuming it's the per-rank or total-per-rank values that are off. The closest I have to a source is the JP wiki's versions of the skills, but I don't want to stick in numbers from another server unless it's known that we have the same AP costs on NA. :c

Meowmeow11:36, 24 June 2012
 

TL;DR Translation: Too lazy, didn't wanna be blamed. *spammyalt+2*

Prairie Dragon Heart.png Anemkitalk to mecontributions12:31, 24 June 2012
 

If laziness was my priority I wouldn't have pointed out the errors at all, let alone calculated which ranks they crept in at. I wouldn't in fact, have a wiki account at all. Are you forgetting that I'm under no obligation to contribute to this wiki at all? Accusations of laziness are kinda rude, especially from someone with a user page saying "I'll be nice to you if you're nice to me.".

Meowmeow16:29, 24 June 2012
 

The whole *spammyalt+2* should've made it obvious that she was saying it in a joking manner. The fact that you were under the impression that it wasn't a joke, and then started being rude to Anemki because of it, makes you even more rude than what you made Anemki out to be. Honestly, I was thinking the same thing as her initial comment, I just chose to be indirect about it.

 
 
If laziness was my priority
 

 

Is that even possible? :|

Selective laziness would be a better fit in this case; You entered the numbers on a spreadsheet, referred to pretty much each skill (I'm guessing), calculated those to see if they were correct, found the ranks that were miscounted, yet didn't change about 10 numbers. The only issue here was with the culmulative AP costs, so it wouldn't matter if the individual values were correct or not since the total (based on the skill pages) were added incorrectly. (in this case anyway)
Edit:That's it, I'm making an Anemki ninja-ing counter XD

Yinato17:00, 24 June 2012
 

Firstly, I apologise to Anemki for not realising that *spammyalt+2* indicated a joke. Thinking about it, I think it refers to mabi expression hotkeys? I don't know for sure, but I did not mean to be rude, just to point out something which I perceived as mean. I put a decent amount of effort into researching this issue (including looking up all four magic shields on JP wiki to see if I could just take their AP values), so it doesn't feel nice to get nothing besides complaints that I didn't do more. Especially since the previous comment said "If you find any errors, let me know.".

Secondly... you both still seem to think that laziness was my reason for not making the changes, despite my earlier explanation. In your case you are now claiming selective laziness, rather than believing that I may have had a different reason for my decision. I'll try and clarify:

My priority for wiki editing is accuracy, so I don't fix anything unless I know what the correct values are. Instead I prefer to flag the issue for investigation.

My concern here isn't that the numbers on the chart don't match the values on the skill pages, it's the possibility that the skill pages themselves might be wrong. I don't currently have a way to check that, so I was hoping that somebody who does (for example, someone who knows how to extract and read client XML) might investigate and determine for sure where the error is.

If I simply changed the numbers so they added up, that'd erase any sign there's a problem without necessarily giving us accurate values.

I don't think 'selective laziness' describes my approach. 'Cautious editing', perhaps? Call it over-cautious if you like, but I still think laziness is unfair for the effort I've put in so far.

Meowmeow18:02, 24 June 2012