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Fragment of a discussion from Talk:Sand Pile
AKA we need to make future items like these unviewable to non-logged in users, or somesuch.
in many sites there are such ways, and most are less advanced than a wiki, but slightly more advanced than a forum.
seems i need to back out now, i didnt know i was jumping into a battle between sides as polarized as this, good luck with the sense making stuff
i shall try to avoid stepping on toes from now on... even ones i dont see