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Template:StyleCharacterInfobox420:56, 2 February 2015
Tasting Production EXP719:17, 3 May 2014
Category:NADMC919:29, 25 March 2014
Ehh117:46, 28 February 2014
Welcome to the club e-e000:09, 24 February 2014
Does this work like this Ikcky help plz021:59, 7 February 2014
Question519:24, 6 February 2014
Transformation Medal Coupon1008:10, 19 January 2014
Kaito Outfit006:06, 19 January 2014
These icons. owo1807:36, 30 December 2013
Equipment enchant types013:59, 13 November 2013
Belisha's Skills711:39, 25 October 2013
Durability017:26, 20 October 2013
Common.js917:17, 20 October 2013
Common.js017:11, 20 October 2013
Page move requests222:14, 1 October 2013
.....421:31, 24 September 2013
Dragon Scale Giant Gauntlets016:49, 13 September 2013
A Request3012:58, 8 September 2013
OH yes I totally agree with triviality.820:31, 23 August 2013
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"I think you could have though of something better for the generations... like a row of checkboxes." -- Ikkisuki

I am curious, how would that work? I can imagine what you mean, but not how it'd work in a infobox-type template.

22:49, 20 March 2011

But wouldn't that stretch the box? I tried brainstorming but there is no way I can think of that wouldn't stetch the box or make it look similar the original idea.

16:47, 21 March 2011

Don't be so hard on yourself. That still looks a little stretched to me, but it looks good enough for now. Better than mine, that is. If you would, can you apply those changes? I would like to do a little tweaking to it at a later time.

17:54, 21 March 2011

It couldn't possibly be any wider than it is now. If I didn't set the width to 100%, the generations chart would barely cover half of the width of the original template.

17:59, 21 March 2011
Edited by another user.
Last edit: 20:56, 2 February 2015

It's okay. So here is what I did with it. What do you think? Do you think I should change anything besides the mainstream error? What about adding anything? All I can think of is possibly saying where your Demigod loyalty would be. I can't figure out how to remove the other races' mainstreams. Normally I would, but I tried adding something for people who don't want it to show up. Now the two other races show up. After it is fixed, if it is good, may I put the coding in Template:CharacterInfobox and redirect Template:CharacterInfobox to it? You can see how it compares to the old template on my page. The only difference in the two templates' coding is the template itself. That being said, it shouldn't mess up the people who used it before the change. (Other than the mainstream thing I can't figure out.)

00:22, 22 March 2011

Tasting Production EXP

A) I completely fail to see the need of a percentage, especially without the mention of the number being multiplied, and B) I completely fail to see the need of your jackass attitude. >.>

18:32, 3 May 2014
I completely fail to see the need of a percentage, especially without the mention of the number being multiplied



I completely fail to see the need of your jackass attitude. >.>


Check your work and stop making retarded edits. Also, you must be complete blind and ignorant to not see the necessity of my attitude towards you.

18:42, 3 May 2014

You could still drop the attitude while pointing out his mistakes.

18:43, 3 May 2014

After these many years of him not learning from his mistakes, I think I've been more than nice enough about it prior to taking on this attitude.

18:47, 3 May 2014

Then there are better ways to do it other than being constantly hostile towards him. You're not helping him or anybody else like that.

Same goes for Info, you need to make an improvement as well. I don't know the exact history of whatever it is that you did in the past, but if you're still repeating those mistakes then there's a problem. And if you don't like Ikkisuki's attitude just ignore it, don't point it out and simply move on.

It's stupid just looking at you two sometimes.

19:02, 3 May 2014
You're not helping him or anybody else like that.


It's not intended to help him or anybody else.

19:04, 3 May 2014

Sakura, may we have tea together in the IRC?

19:16, 3 May 2014

Then don't do it. All you do is bring negativity.

19:17, 3 May 2014

I'm just curious.. what does the acronym stand for, anyway?

09:13, 25 March 2014

I don't even remember.

18:09, 25 March 2014

IIRC, it had something to do with age requirement and magical clothing?

18:10, 25 March 2014

Nevermind, it's right at the top of the category. No Auto Defense Magical Clothing, probably.

18:10, 25 March 2014

Wait. You wrote that. Well. I believe that is what it was for anyway.

18:11, 25 March 2014

This category is added by the StyleEquip Template. I can't make sense of this template since it uses so many other templates that I don't know but, it's on this line:

{{#arraysearch:xml|age_min|0|*Can only be worn by characters between ages {{#arrayindex:xml|{{#expr:{{#arraysearch:xml|age_min}}+1}}}}~{{#arrayindex:xml|{{#expr:{{#arraysearch:xml|age_max}}+1}}}}.{{#ifeq:{{#arrayindex:xml|{{#expr:{{#arraysearch:xml|immune_melee}}+1}}}}{{#arrayindex:xml|{{#expr:{{#arraysearch:xml|immune_magic}}+1}}}}{{#arrayindex:xml|{{#expr:{{#arraysearch:xml|immune_ranged}}+1}}}}|age_minage_minage_min|[[Category:NADMC]]}}|}}

EDIT: Errr, I didn't want it to actually render the template so I wrapped it in pre tags, but now it makes your user page scroll horizontally a ton... Edit this post if it bugs you.

18:58, 25 March 2014

Yeah, I know where it's located; I used it for some debugging a while back and forgot to remove it. Guess I'll go do that now.

19:20, 25 March 2014

Alright, I'll go delete the category and recache the equipment pages then.

19:25, 25 March 2014

Oh god, something weird happened to the image boxes Claus_Muffler_Leather_Mail

19:26, 25 March 2014

Do you want me to go ahead and delete every subpage under your name?

Nah, it was just those. Thanks anyway.

17:46, 28 February 2014

Welcome to the club e-e

My head hurts...


Ikkisuki, This file

00:09, 24 February 2014

Does this work like this Ikcky help plz

Ikkisuki add me on Skype it's Denkomogoto I FORGOT HOW MABI WIKI WORKS

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21:59, 7 February 2014

Could you tell me how to upload Idle poses? my friends are asking me to upload the Flight attendant pose and I've been trying all night but I just can't figure it out. Is there a special program I need?

23:40, 5 February 2014

Personally, I use gifcam to record gifs, but I don't think its quality would be suitable for wiki (file size should be small though).

Kapra - (Talk)

18:44, 6 February 2014

The in-game recorder can't be used for .gifs?

18:52, 6 February 2014

.avi ≠ .gif

besides...".gif" is an file extension for images. You could probably convert a part of an avi into a gif though with software, but it wouldn't look as good a quality sometimes due to compression.

18:57, 6 February 2014

He probably did a timelapse, a series of images taken a long period of time, threw it in some animation software like photoshop and created a gif. I think kev is the only one here that can make the gifs to make look as it appears in-game, and with real time animations so it doesn't look weird. I mean, look at Chain Cylinder's gif quailty and compare to any of the outfits with an idle pose that Kev did.

18:56, 6 February 2014

I use Fraps + Photoshop to create the gifs. I simply start recording at a point where I can easily identify when the animation restarts, and record until I see that frame again. Then I import it into Photoshop, crop, and cut off all the unnecessary frames to give it a smooth transition.

I would not recommend using gif-creating programs or the ingame recorder, as they usually crap up the quality quite badly.

Also make sure to resize your gif scaled to a height of 150px, otherwise your gif will not animate on the equipment pages because large gifs don't animate on the wiki if they have to be resized by the wiki software.

19:24, 6 February 2014

Transformation Medal Coupon

So how about saying WHAT IS WRONG rather than vaguely just saying ITS WRONG?

14:13, 7 January 2014


Yes, let's continue playing the "Make conclusive statements where no evidence is provided or researach is done" game. The same reason no one trusts wiki info anymore.


wasn't specific enough?

14:15, 7 January 2014

Not to mention, the specified edit is linked to the text... and there's only one possible thing that the quote could have been regarding in that edit...

I'm not sure what you're confused about.

14:17, 7 January 2014
Stack three Transformation Medal Coupons and then right-click and select "Use" to change it into a Shamala Transformation Medal of a random NPC.



The NPC does not include forms obtainable from events or The Saga: Iria.


Is wrong?

You don't have to have the medal in possession to make a coupon, just right click it. Also, stacking three doesn't automatically turn into a medal. You have to stack three medal coupons (which look like 1x1 broken medals) and right click-use (or ctrl click). It is true that saga and event medals are not included, but I am not sure about limited time like morrighan



So you're saying our very own KR Tester is wrong?

14:30, 7 January 2014

i believe you can receive limited NPC medals from the random return of 3 broken medals... unless Juliet isnt a limited medal.. the discription is currently bugged so i cant tell for sure

06:09, 19 January 2014

Juliet is not a limited NPC

08:10, 19 January 2014

Obviously I'm only talking about the 2nd quote.

First it was "everything that comes out of Nexon's mouth must be true". Now it's Pyro's? Who's next?

And just because he's a (our? he's owned by MWW?) KR Tester, everything he states is true? In that case, I've also got access to a KR test account.

I'm not even sure how he's able to state

It is true that saga and event medals are not included


and follow up with
We still have no way to prove this, so we are not allowed to say it without claiming it is not a proven fact.


with no provided evidence or research.

You must know, since you believe his words so strongly. Please, tell me, ol' wise one.

14:38, 7 January 2014

I don't see how me being a KR tester has anything to do with it, but for the converting medals into coupons, you can test that out yourself easily. Also, as for the event and saga NPC part, that is true now that I think about it, there is no evidence I or anyone CAN give that proves you cannot get any type of medal from a reward list, you can only prove what you can get from a reward list.

Edit: Ninjaed.

Kapra - (Talk)

14:41, 7 January 2014

Yes, "our". I see MWW staff working like one big family, so I view that we're all brothers and sisters here.

Wasn't the 2nd quote referring to the debate on Limited NPCs?

14:50, 7 January 2014

I believe he was questioning how I could prove the Saga and other event NPCs aren't on the list, which I just said cannot be proved, so we cannot say it as a fact under current standards.

Kapra - (Talk)

14:53, 7 January 2014

Very well then, I'm going to concede here.

14:57, 7 January 2014

Kaito Outfit

sence the outfit is an NPC or name sake for a chr in JPop music an the outfit always came in the same way when a chr was made with it should we not upload a gif of the animation in the original color as well? sorry if im nickpicking lol

06:06, 19 January 2014

These icons. owo


So since you're not on Skype, and I'm not too worried about adding this here. I have found these icons with some new /changes/ I added to my client. We'll just call it that. ahahaaa.

I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to add these, but I had only noticed these so far.

In order: March Song, Vivace, Shock, Cloud (Sleep), and Harvest Song.


Anemki's siggy is better than Kevin's! ║ talkcontributions

15:13, 28 December 2013

They don't seem to be used in-game from what I can tell, so I'm not sure what to do with them. :C

17:11, 28 December 2013

You could re-enable them through scripts and heavy modding. otherwise, they go unsused. A friend of mine was experimenting with some stuff that got left unused, such as dungeon icons that have an actually starting point to it and such. It doesn't do anything to help. Not to mention visuals. Could be left over from a test? I don't know lol.

19:20, 28 December 2013

Oh, they were coming up because of mods, I just wasn't sure if they should be added or not into the wiki because of that reason. xD

They are official icons though, and show up in my character window as well as under my name, soooooo.

Anemki's siggy is better than Kevin's! ║ talkcontributions

21:43, 28 December 2013


Considering that they exist, might as well mention them as trivia?

00:12, 29 December 2013

I'm pretty positive it was left over from testing...we have plenty of visuals as is, though considering the buffs can get bugged and visuals remain, I suppose that what it could be used for.

00:36, 29 December 2013

Or invisible thanks to Mini Effects.

11:44, 29 December 2013

I don't think mini effects have anything to do with it since I don't mess with that setting. They started appearing when I added in new mods. owo /cough

Anemki's siggy is better than Kevin's! ║ talkcontributions

11:55, 29 December 2013

No, we're talking about the icons supposedly serving in place of visual representation auras and whatnot. Mini Effects is one of those things that affects visual.

12:11, 29 December 2013

Ahh, okay. I'm gunna add them to the Status page anyway, they're pretty neat. Couldn't hurt any.

Anemki's siggy is better than Kevin's! ║ talkcontributions

12:21, 29 December 2013

Somewhat related(?) [But also pretty old], who/where is this NPC from/at? Name is apparently "Shay". I don't see any info on JWiki.

22:45, 28 December 2013

Shay or Shy is the replacement NPC for Lorna in JP/KR. You can see the name appear during the Generation renewal quest.

Shy also appears in the Transformation Diary. <Event> This bob-haired beauty sells special items. Use Shamala's Transformation Medal to collect. (Limited NPC)

22:55, 28 December 2013

Replacement for what, exactly? I thought JP/KR didn't have the Saga Coupon system?

23:36, 28 December 2013

Something about no appealing and unfamiliar face...I read it somewhere.

00:37, 29 December 2013
  • Shy
    • Handles if you want to go form old G1-3 to new G1-3.
    • Internet Cafe-only shop (she sells MP potions, among other things).
  • Lorna
    • Handles if you want to go form old G1-3 to new G1-3.
    • Exchanges saga coupons for rewards.

Keep in mind KR doesn't have saga rewards we do, and NA doesn't have Internet Cafe specials in Nexon games.

Kapra - (Talk)

16:15, 29 December 2013

Ah, I forgot about Genesis.

Would it be okay to make a page for Shy? I mean, we still have Nekojima even though we're still not on the verge of getting it.

16:31, 29 December 2013

. . . *Points at front page* What does it say?

I don't think we should be making unnecessary pages unless we actually get it. Granted, Shadow Bunshin and Nekojima is here on this wiki, but ehh...I think they should be put elsewhere or even thrown out. May never get it, but if we do then well...dam. We did eventually get Shadow Bunshin, albeit the updated version for all servers, but can't help but hope I guess...then suddenly we get to find another exploit and explore the dam place.

18:21, 29 December 2013

Personally I don't think we should remove any skipped content or exclusive content, that doesn't necessarily mean we should make pages for them, though I think there should never be a policy restricting anyone form making one.

that being said, I think it would be good to mention it towards the bottom of Lorna's page.

Kapra - (Talk)

20:06, 29 December 2013

Well, since it is possible to obtain her transformation via medals probably, once people get it they wouldn't know who she is. Also that makes the redirection of Shy to Lorna inaccurate in a sense.

07:36, 30 December 2013

Equipment enchant types

There's a few equipment with missing categories.

13:59, 13 November 2013

Belisha's Skills

Hi. Could you please look for the names of Belisha's two her-specific skills? Thank you.

Also on a side note, could you also look for the names of:

  • Blade Wyvern's biting attack.
  • Trickster's skills (if it has any)
  • Sephiroth's (Coill Abyss boss) skills
  • Vampire/Duke's (Peaca Abyss boss) skills
18:11, 24 October 2013

I'd like to know if desert dragon and prairie dragon really have stomp like infodude says.

18:13, 24 October 2013

They might not have it in data but have it in server, or they might have it in data but not in server. Or, they might have it in data and/or server but their AI not allow them to use it. (Like Cyclops Windmilling, I believe?)

Pyro - (Talk)

02:01, 25 October 2013

You can always go get a Pickaxe.png and Data Mining.png yourself, Infodude. The fact that you constantly ask for things without trying yourself is making me not want to help you.

Pyro - (Talk)

01:59, 25 October 2013

And where am I supposed to get a Pickaxe.png?

I always thought Wiki was collaborative effort. I guess I was wrong to think that...

07:43, 25 October 2013

You've never used a mabiunpack of mabipackagetool before? I recall you saying you threw out your Pickaxe.png before. The wiki is a collective source of users who provide information, not just ask for information or for others to do work without even trying yourself. Please do not use sarcasm.

Pyro - (Talk)

09:11, 25 October 2013

Even if I did get a new one, where am I supposed to look?

Not everyone has the knowledge or capability of doing or reading coding. What if I got it wrong? What if you told me to "do it myself" and edit something complex like Template:StyleWeapon and I messed something up?

09:31, 25 October 2013

Coding is understandable, I did not know coding before wikis and my coding is still limited to what I do on the wiki, and I would not touch StyleWeapon without like testing it on my urserpage or something. But this is not the kind of thing that requires coding knowledge. . . There's a specific file for skills in the db folder, does that help? There are plenty of guides and resources at places where you can get a Pickaxe.png and you know what the pickaxe is called so why not? I learn from trial & error and observing, you should be able to at least do the same.

Pyro - (Talk)

11:38, 25 October 2013


A thread, Thread:User talk:Infodude575/Durability, was moved from here to User talk:Info. This move was made by Info (talk | contribs) on 21 October 2013 at 01:26.

Can you let me know why you reverted my special colors change awhile ago? Sounds like there was something wrong with it, but I can't tell from the changelog.

21:13, 1 October 2013

Not sure which revision you're talking about. Mind linking me?


You made a lot of changes, so there's no single one. Compare the current version to http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js&oldid=441432 with respect to the special user colors, you'll see what I mean.

22:19, 1 October 2013

I'm guessing the edit was made prior to user color names having been fixed, so that's probably why. Other than that, it's too long ago to remember.


Don't follow. Was something broken with my code? If not, I'm gonna put it back since that whole page needs cleanup.

22:53, 1 October 2013

Well, name color wasn't working for quite a while and no one did anything about it. Put it back if you want. Not like I can do anything about it.


Hmm, I was under the impression that it worked more than it should have (like it would convert certain diff links to golden). I'll put it back later and fix it if it's broken...I did test it before I left it alone, though. Not sure why it broke.

23:22, 1 October 2013

I recall having mentioned this issue to you on IRC before having made the changes a long time after said mention.


I'll check my logs tomorrow then, thanks.

23:36, 1 October 2013

New code should be fixed now. Let me know if you see errors. I think one of the errors was because the old cookie data was stored in a different way so the syntax error wasn't actually the code but trying to parse the cookie (ugh cookies). There was another bug that broke when the wiki moved and I changed the URLs to not all be index.php blah blah.

09:42, 2 October 2013
A thread, Thread:User talk:Ikkisuki/Common.js, was moved from here to User talk:Ikkisuki. This move was made by Info (talk | contribs) on 21 October 2013 at 01:11.

Page move requests

Can you move some pages? They're effecting the edit links.

Template:DataEnchantDeadman‎ -> Template:DataEnchantDead Man‎

Template:DataEnchantStone -> Template:DataEnchantStone7

Template:DataEnchantRock -> Template:DataEnchantStoneC


21:45, 1 October 2013

Uh, sure. I can move them (as can you), but I can't delete the old redirects. o.o


Thanks, I thought you were able to delete too.

22:14, 1 October 2013

And exactly what is wrong with "this shit"?

18:46, 24 September 2013

I have to agree with Infodude, nothing wrong with quoting the ingame menu.

Pyro - (Talk)

20:03, 24 September 2013

...ehh I think it's the fact that it's trivial and not really necessary. That's usually what you wanted to point out right kev ;x? Unless I overshot that obvious point completely, then I have no idea.

PS: I'm not taking sides.

21:07, 24 September 2013

You should open a mind-reading shop.


And suddenly I go out of business within hours after opening...

Jokes aside, I don't see a problem with it, while at the same time, the summery under it already explains what is going on...kinda redundant...

21:31, 24 September 2013

Dragon Scale Giant Gauntlets

"Item Specifications - Do not touch! If any changes need to be made to this section, please leave a request in the Discussion page of this article or User Talk:Ikkisuki."

I found it in a Eweca Orb.

16:49, 13 September 2013

This might be a large request, but could you possibly update the project mimic templates to the G17 UI?

Pyro - (Talk)

02:00, 10 July 2013

Unfortunately, I can't because I no longer have access to Mediawiki:Common.css, which I would require to skin. I could ask User:Angevon to make the necessary changes, but there'd be a lot of change requests before I get it right.


Also, are the Wand damage information for Elven Magic Missile in data? If so, can you help?

Pyro - (Talk)

23:58, 21 July 2013

I also wonder if the Demigod skills are even in the data too...

00:04, 22 July 2013

I'm not even sure where the "Bow Damage" values came from. Nothing seems to match any of the information in the files.

There is however "Ranged Attack Damage" and "Magic Damage". I'm guessing Ranged Attack Damage would be that of the bow damage, and Magic Damage would be that of wand damage, but the Ranged Attack Damage bears no resemblance to the current data we have of Bow Damage.

There also doesn't seem to be a min or max value for either of these vars. Just a single decimal value.

I'm guessing if the data in the client is correct, both vars are percents of base damage, seeing as how "Ranged Attack Damage" goes from 0.8 at rank F to 3.0 at rank 1 (80% of damage to 300% of damage). But this means that wand damage stays a constant 10% of your damage at all ranks (it's constant 0.1 from F to 1).

There are also a bunch of other unnamed vars that probably mean something, too. As for what, I have no clue.

History shows Angevon did so several years ago. [1]

Pyro - (Talk)

03:53, 22 July 2013

Chances are she just got them off another wiki. Not sure though.


Yeah, it's from JP wiki. Looks like after all this time they still don't have the wand details. Obviously I don't know where they got the numbers from, either.

13:01, 22 July 2013

Is there a KR wiki, or any other wiki?

14:12, 22 July 2013

There's a defuncted one and there's this gameabout one that sorta resembles a wiki.

14:20, 22 July 2013

Uh, I don't think EMM is JUST for Bows? Can't Crossbows use it too?

00:15, 22 July 2013


oh no........................................................................................................................................

A crossbow is a weapon consisting of a bow mounted on a stock that shoots projectiles, often called bolts or quarrels.



Well technically it is kind of true.

08:22, 22 July 2013

Thank you for copying and pasting the same thing I took an image of and telling me it is true.


Uh you're welcome? Derp :P

14:32, 22 July 2013

If crossbows were made before Elven Magic Missile, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't included, but they were made before any differences were distinguished between Bows and Crossbows so they probably are included. That being said, you can't Elven Magic Missile with a staff, only wands and archery weapons.

Pyro - (Talk)

03:51, 22 July 2013

I'm pretty sure they were made in the beginning of time.

08:23, 22 July 2013

Yep, I wasn't questioning that?

Pyro - (Talk)

08:51, 22 July 2013

I no longer understand how the weapons template works. . . Can you help me add a success rate need category? If a data page has "SkillRank" but is missing parameters like "SuccessRate_r9" or it says ?, make it broadcast a category such as "Category:NeedSuccess Rates" through the use of the items' page. It would also need to be done with other item templates but if you do one I should be able to figure the rest out. Also, if lets say "SkillRank=9", make any success rate under 9 not trigger the need category.

Pyro - (Talk)

01:45, 28 July 2013

I don't see what that has to do with the weapon template specifically, but anyway...


It has nothing to do with it, it's just convenient because the weapons template will only be used on the items corresponding pages. Sorry if it's too much trouble.

Pyro - (Talk)

02:20, 28 July 2013
Edited by another user.
Last edit: 17:52, 23 August 2013

The reason parameter of Template:Delete doesn't seem to show up for me no matter how I format it. (Also, still haven't touched the production rates thing, I'll get to it soon, sorry.)

Pyro - (Talk)

20:45, 3 August 2013

Since this is a request thread...do something about engineering repairs.

15:18, 17 August 2013

Edit: Wrong thread, sorry for bumping.

Pyro - (Talk)

21:52, 18 August 2013

Pyrus...or anyone for the matter. Well, can't move the Shyllien central map but the others and Black Mask's npc image yeah :x

11:06, 8 September 2013

I uploaded the Black Mask image and File:Black Mask Unhooded.png but I'm not sure what to do with this one. Don't put it in plain sight or that might be a spoiler.

Pyro - (Talk)

12:48, 8 September 2013

I was going to say that! How dare you ninja me!

Put it in the spoiler tags.

12:54, 8 September 2013

Oh, well, sorry. Gonna dip into the NA files in a sec to find the shyllien maps.

Pyro - (Talk)

12:55, 8 September 2013

Well now we need to figure out which one we should keep.

12:58, 8 September 2013

OH yes I totally agree with triviality.

^^^ You know what I'm saying lol...

20:11, 23 August 2013

Explain to me your definition of "triviality" and "useful information".

20:15, 23 August 2013

I dunno man but you seem to be ticking this guy off for quite a while.Haven't you see the "awesome remarks" regarding you :D...no offense, I'm not against you or anything.

PS: Oh COME ON! Can't I make one shot with casual conversations?
PPS: When are you not posting trivial things? Some things are better left unsaid...
PPPS: Sorry for pushing the border between insanity and sanity if you didn't go full on insane Kev.

20:21, 23 August 2013

Huh, I thought that was the reverse...

20:22, 23 August 2013

Eh...? So, you two ticking each other off? Oh the humanity....

20:25, 23 August 2013

You mean the definition of "triviality" and "useful information", right? Because those aren't the words that are being redefined.


Very nice dismissal remark...

20:28, 23 August 2013

Or were you serious about not knowing the definition of "triviality" and "useful"? I wouldn't be surprised.

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