Ads on the wiki

1. small adds, non 'flash' based adds, non animated adds. add's from choice's that revolve around Mabinogi and Nexon

2. unsure, maybe 1. can answer that lol, also like Eldiablox444 said NO POP UPS!!!! or pop unders, click jacking, etc. only from LEGIT sites.

3. yes, very much so would consider donating money to help keep wiki alive.

4. NO. bc this is a way for the site itself to become a some what business type, making money after limit is reached.

-Side Note-

Ok in further explanation. I'm sure just about everyone else will not want Ad's on wiki site. Ad's would make this place look cheap and cheesy. Yes I understand this is a free wiki site of course. So donations would be the best way to go. If Ad's are placed on the site, please make it something heavily related to Mabinogi/and or Nexon. RPG games in general.

My personal opinion is Nexon major fail when they started to allow Ad's on their own site. Which have that of no relation to Mabinogi or other Nexon game's or game's in general.

Tho I must heavily stress, because I and others have no choice. Please do not allow 'FLASHY'/Flash/Gif/Ad's with sound/ and please no LARGE ad's.

Thankyou for reading all of this.

You are right that having a per-user ad toggle would make the wiki very business-like, but that is certainly not our intention. I hadn't thought about it before. I don't think we would be aiming to make a profit as much as having a rainy day fund, but the more I think about it, even that would get messy. I'm sure if we went this route then we would reimburse extra money should the wiki shutdown, but this is one of the most complicated options because we would definitely need to write our own code for it. Handling stuff like wiki down times, etc, could just get annoying.

I would have no problems with adds on the wiki servers for mabi to keep the servers funded. the only request I make as a player of Mabinogi, is that the adds are fixed adds when you or anyone else loads the page. Those actively changing adds that youtube and face book have been using create a immense amount of lag to players because it forces the page to reload itself every 30 seconds or how ever often it's set to change adds. if you can avoid adds like those i'd have zero problems using mabi wiki. if you do use them i might avoid using it to save lag :x

Just adding some adds on the left side toolbar would be fine. It wouldn't be intrusive and to be honest, if there was maybe a little message up top asking people to click on the add I'd do it. All those people saying they'd leave they probably wouldn't. It's mabiwiki for crying out loud! Just try it out, I don't think anyone would really complain. All those complicated ideas about guild adds and what not are just a little far out there. I think adding a small add or two would be fine.

Unfortunately, asking people to click your ads will get you banned from ad networks pretty quickly! The sidebar might be a good location too though, we had only considered top and bottom so far. Thanks!

Probably the least painful way to put in ads is to have them on the BOTTOM of the page, not the side or the top. Also ones that dont take alot of resources, like flash.

I dont use an adblocker myself unless Im watching stuff on video streaming sites, so I wouldnt need to whitelist the wiki ads.

I would donate if I could, but like many here, Im a poor student who can barely afford her ramen, let alone pay for the wiki. I think ads are a wonderful idea, honestly, because every month I see the little donation box, and every month it says 0 dollars donated. Makes a sad Yuuka.

No, I wouldnt pay money just to get rid of ads. I dont pay them much mind, and I actually found Mabi through an ad. =p

I agree also with what some others have said. Maybe instead of getting an ad service, rent the space out to guilds or players, to advertise guilds, sales, events, etc. Im sure some merchants wouldnt mind shelling out a few bucks to get a space on the wiki to advertise their shop and wares....

So long as they do not pop up, make sounds, use a large amount of flash, and in overall are a minor part of the site, I could easily deal with it. They only become annoying when they go out of their way to catch your attention.

I wouldn't mind animated as long as it isn't too long an ad.

Trust me, I hate pop-up, pop-under and flash ads with a burning passion. Those things are blasted annoying and take extra time to spawn (in the case of pop-up/-under ads and Flash ads) or run (Flash ads). The idea here is we want to be as unobtrusive as possible so we can still make a few bucks to defray the costs of hosting and maintaining the server and sites she hosts.

At least with animated GIFs and PNGs (MNGs), you can hit the escape key to halt the animations.