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Shield?

  1. I'll try to find out.
  2. Unfortunately, yes giants can use guard cylinders with lances and two handed swords.
  3. Both guard cylinders have no effect on damage at all. However, the differences are:
    • Rebis has 2 more base magic protection (they both have 2 base magic def, and 0 def/prot).
    • Regular guard cylinder has 2 regular upgrades and a gem upgrade, Rebis has 3 regular upgrades and a gem upgrade. (I'm not entirely sure if they are allowed to have two gem upgrades like shields.)
    • 0 upgrade on a regular guard cylinder has to be 5% melee, 1 and 2 can be either 5% ranged or magic for both. The gem upgrade I know of is +2 durability.
    • Rebis Guard Cylinder has the same upgrades, but also regular cylinder's Weight Reduction 1, 2, and 3. (Not 4 and 5.) It also has regular cylinder's Trigger Charge upgrade, and an artisan that increases HP, MP, SP, and crit.
    • No defensive upgrades for either of them.
Pyro - (Talk)22:55, 4 October 2013

2. I think you mean fortunately.

DANTE20XX (talk)23:34, 4 October 2013
 

I think he meant unsurprisingly, because.. you know.. they're shields... what aspects of them aren't like normal shields (other than the obvious cylinder stuff and the mdef/mprot, but that isn't even because it's a guard cylinder)?

 

Unfortunately because it greatens the gap between human and giant melee, They should be closing the gaps. . . Unsurprisingly because ya, they're pretty much identical shields but without the def/prot upgrades.

Confirmed, there is defensive boosts when using a guard cylinder iwth defense compared to barheanded with defense (at rN shield Mastery), and you can use windbreaker with a guard cylinder.

Pyro - (Talk)23:53, 4 October 2013