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Devil Scythe R Type Bug?

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I've R type upgraded my Devil Scythe and at step 3, it only provides and additional 18% critical damage. With this, I am assuming it is considered a One-Handed Weapon for R type yet still a Two-Handed Weapon for enchants since I have the Violent enchant on it. I have yet to S type upgrade a Devil Scythe.

Sushiforyou (talk)00:41, 4 December 2013

It's considered 1 handed, despite obviously being held in two lesat for R-type. S-Type, I'm not sure but I would assume would be the same. I had an R5 (Worse investment ever btw...I want my stones back ._. . . .) and blew it up at an attempt at 6.

ベリサ・マイルスター (talk)01:42, 4 December 2013

Ehh although I can no longer check my damage with mine, can you see if it's just a visual bug? Also if you do fail/succeed while adding another stone, check the numbers again.

ベリサ・マイルスター (talk)01:47, 4 December 2013

I'm not sure how I would be able to check the damage precisely since there a many damage modifiers involved. Care to help?

Sushiforyou (talk)02:04, 4 December 2013

oh yeah...well you could just find a few foxes, take your max and multiply it by smash rank's say your max is 238, multiply it by 500% (5x) and get that number, then multiply that by critical rank (probably 1, so 1.5x). To check for R-Type Damage, use the same numbers but change the critical bonus form 1.5x to 1.68 (150%+18%), and that roughly gives you maximum damage that would be done. of course that's all in a perfect world with where everything is 0% and you can always hit your maximum damage...either that or find another one with the same stats and/or reforges, and do a few averages that way. If you know what's your average smash damage on critical, shouldn't be hard to see a nearly 20% difference.

I suck at math so if I wrong...correct me now. Of course, the faster (though risker) way to confirm it's one handed damage bonus or not is to special upgrade it again. Do that at your own risk, unless you can spare that much.

ベリサ・マイルスター (talk)02:17, 4 December 2013

Alright so I used the less risky method that you provided and crunched some numbers. I damage-tested on White Spiders in Emain Macha with an Untamed Violent Devil Scythe R 3 Step.


Damage: 169 - 301
Balance : 80%

Since I was trying to find out whether the weapon's damage is considered One-Handed or Two-Handed, I predicted the damage for both Smash modifiers (one-handed and two-handed) and calculated the damage output.

OHSmash = One-Handed Smash
TWSmash = Two-Handed Smash

Smash w/ One-Handed Weapon w/o Special Upgrades[edit]

(301 dmg x 4.2 OHSmash) x 2.5 Crit = 3160 Dmg

Smash w/ One-Handed Weapon w/ 3 Step R[edit]

(301 dmg x 4.2 OHSmash) x 2.68 Crit = 3387 Dmg

Smash w/ Two-Handed Weapon w/o Special Upgrades[edit]

(301 dmg x 5.04 THSmash) x 2.5 Crit = 3793 Dmg

Smash w/ Two-Handed Weapon w/ 3 Step R[edit]

(301 dmg x 5.04 THSmash) x 2.76 Crit = 4187 Dmg

I regret to say this but it's not a visual bug since I was crit-smashing for 3387 Dmg at max. Although the damage output isn't considered Two-Handed, enchants that limit two-handed weapons seem to allow you to use said enchant on the Devil Scythe. I will probably try to get to Step 5 later in the future but I don't intend to do so any time soon.

Sushiforyou (talk)22:35, 4 December 2013

Evidence is pretty concrete as is and all signs points to 1 handed damage with the use of two handed enchants. :c Sad day for D. Slayers. Gonna see if anyone I know blue stoned theirs or not.

ベリサ・マイルスター (talk)22:57, 4 December 2013