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The Introductory Paragraph.

Fragment of a discussion from Talk:Windmill

@Wolven all the objective information is already listed on the page, so that is needless.

@Strill Opinions contain objective information on the judgement and logic of the person who formulated them. They contain no objective information about the subject outside inference. Encyclopedic tone requires that implication not be used because inference is subjective and therefore implication contains no concrete meaning.

Tellos11:39, 29 December 2010

Once again this is not Wikipedia. There is no guideline in this wiki requiring objectivity, no guideline requiring neutral point of view, and absolutely no claim is made anywhere of being an encyclopedia. All of those claims are entirely based on your opinion, which is ironically exactly the thing you're arguing against.

Strill12:16, 29 December 2010
 

My claims are based on the tone required to convey concrete information. "The Rules of Definition" so to speak. So I'm not basing anything on opinion.

Fact: This is a Mabinogi Encyclopedia.

Fact: Encyclopedias have specific content guidelines which must be followed in order to ensure that the information contains no ambiguity or implication.

I am speaking purely in fact. The only opinion here is yours.

Tellos12:20, 29 December 2010
 

Fact: This is a Mabinogi Wiki. Nowhere is "encyclopedia" mentioned at all.

Fact: Mabinogi wiki has specific content guidelines enumerated in the Policy Page. It includes none of what you said.

I am speaking purely in fact. The only opinion here is yours.

Strill12:28, 29 December 2010
 

One of the content guidelines is also that you must cooperate with other users. Simply put this comes down to majority rule until a policy is made. I will not be allowing any subjective introductions, and if an intro contains redundant information it will be removed.

Tellos12:31, 29 December 2010

Would you mind showing me where that policy is? I don't see anything about that in the Wiki Policy page. Regardless, it's me and Wolven who have made opinions for keeping the introductory paragraph, and you and kaede-kit who are against. Two for and two against is hardly a consensus.

In any case, this argument is going nowhere. I'll be contacting an administrator.

Strill12:51, 29 December 2010
 

Question and Answer. Here you go. That is where anything gets decided. Also, quit acting like a brat.

kaede-kit13:17, 29 December 2010
 

I don't think the introductions are necessary. The details section should have all the info needed. In my opinion, there should be some mention of how reliant the skill is on CP to train somewhere in the details section.

Angevon (Talk)10:23, 30 December 2010