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May I ask what is your justification on the critical percentage calculation?

まそっぷ ! (talk)01:51, 26 October 2013

i had my crit bare handed at 80% after G18 not food effects and i was dealing out crits left and right everywhere with my bare hands, i was told last year to get more like 5k kills on monsters tests and i have 100k+ kill monsters tested my crit hit amoutn out of 100 at a time and it always was around my crit bare handed adn i was testing it against burgundy laga's and thigs like that it get a clearer reading. i know what i am seeing and it is not capped at 30% if u not believe get your crit to 80% bare handed and run the tests your self with lagas, skeletons and the like

Geminitiger0 (talk)01:57, 26 October 2013
 

This is...on normal hits right? There's skills that ignore protection, providing maximum percentage. I've bare handed tons of things with a crit at about 90%~ after full aging and leveling.

まそっぷ ! (talk)02:00, 26 October 2013

yes normal hits even now my crit at 65% and again most normal hits about 65 out or 100 r crit hits with normal strikes bare hands and with weapons

Geminitiger0 (talk)02:05, 26 October 2013
 

my idea of crit % may not be correct but i can tell u that it is not capped at 30%my iead is based on my experence since i rb every 10 weeks adn average 100 to 150 lvl my crit % bare handed chages dramatically over the weeks and at ir goes up do my normal attack crit hits

Geminitiger0 (talk)02:16, 26 October 2013
 

Well a theoretical 1-in-3 chance usually doesn't reflect the actual chance. I mean (and yes it is related), I can flip a coin and have it come up more times heads than tails when theoretically it's 50/50.

まそっぷ ! (talk)02:17, 26 October 2013
 

You keep saying critical chance has changed for you, but you don't give us any data, and a subjective evaluation is not enough to warrant changing a wiki page.

If you really tested 100k+ monsters, you should have that data somewhere and should be able to easily post it for others to validate. Also, you should have held all variables constant while testing. This means gathering the whole sample at the same time, with the same equipment, level, titles, stats, and so forth. If this isn't the case, you have a flawed statistical method and any conclusions drawn from your data are invalid, regardless of how large the sample ended up being.

Your friendly Server Status Script admin, Xcelled19403:54, 26 October 2013

I would like to amend this post slightly.

The 30% cap was originally presented with research and sample data. Therefore, to rescind it, one needs to provide new data. In other cases it may or may not be necessary to provide such data.

However, Gemini, an administrator reverted your edit, which means you are not allowed to re-edit it. If I catch you doing it again, I'll ban you.

Kadalyn (talk)14:56, 26 October 2013

to back none of my videos i make never upload to youtube so i can't provide data y don't one u u try it out like i suggested and ANYTHING i have EVER typed is always erased adn replaced with something else that says the exact some thing

Geminitiger0 (talk)16:24, 26 October 2013

If something is "being erased and replaced with the same thing" it's likely that your English is just being corrected. If you're offended by that, a wiki might not be the best place for you... This is very common fare.

Anyway I don't mean "video evidence" of "hey look I get crits like all the time, really" I mean like a massive spreadsheet with lots of recorded data and math and scientific study. This should of course be tested on mobs with known protection, or you should forge a min > max weapon to discover the protection of the mobs you wish to run the trial on via such means as this.

It's a lot of work so I would recommend you consider it carefully before endeavoring to do such a thing. There are players that enjoy stats and contribute these sorts of tests and science for us as it is, and it will probably be better and easier for you to trust their judgement.

Kadalyn (talk)16:34, 26 October 2013

science, math, and computer my favorite subjects GPA of 3.85 after college but i never did any of the math i just recorded how many sticks were crits in increments of 100

and the stuff not being corrected it being completly rephrased with the same meaning

Geminitiger0 (talk)18:22, 26 October 2013
 

but i can do the math but the counts i not have the sheet i recorded the number count on this was i did the counts before G18S2 no one said i had to show any math or anything the first time but i know what is happening with me and that not matter if i have a weapon or bare handed i get crits that amount to my bare hand percentage

Geminitiger0 (talk)18:26, 26 October 2013
 

Things can very often seem right and not actually be right. That's why we have science.

Kadalyn (talk)19:29, 26 October 2013

anyway i just know how my crit is working that is all

Geminitiger0 (talk)19:45, 26 October 2013
 
 
 
 
 

^^^I'm going to have to agree on that. All talk and no proof makes your statements kinda invalid. I'm not saying you're wrong, but no valid proof makes it hard to believe.

まそっぷ ! (talk)04:15, 26 October 2013