User talk:Geminitiger0

Something to look into some people r saying that crit % in character window about 80% ignores protection something to test out like to know if it is true

High crit doesn't add to protection ignore.

Some specific skills ignore protection's reduction on crit chance but not the damage reduction.

nvm

May I ask what is your justification on the critical percentage calculation?

i had my crit bare handed at 80% after G18 not food effects and i was dealing out crits left and right everywhere with my bare hands, i was told last year to get more like 5k kills on monsters tests and i have 100k+ kill monsters tested my crit hit amoutn out of 100 at a time and it always was around my crit bare handed adn i was testing it against burgundy laga's and thigs like that it get a clearer reading. i know what i am seeing and it is not capped at 30% if u not believe get your crit to 80% bare handed and run the tests your self with lagas, skeletons and the like

This is...on normal hits right? There's skills that ignore protection, providing maximum percentage. I've bare handed tons of things with a crit at about 90%~ after full aging and leveling.

yes normal hits even now my crit at 65% and again most normal hits about 65 out or 100 r crit hits with normal strikes bare hands and with weapons

my idea of crit % may not be correct but i can tell u that it is not capped at 30%my iead is based on my experence since i rb every 10 weeks adn average 100 to 150 lvl my crit % bare handed chages dramatically over the weeks and at ir goes up do my normal attack crit hits

Well a theoretical 1-in-3 chance usually doesn't reflect the actual chance. I mean (and yes it is related), I can flip a coin and have it come up more times heads than tails when theoretically it's 50/50.

You keep saying critical chance has changed for you, but you don't give us any data, and a subjective evaluation is not enough to warrant changing a wiki page.

If you really tested 100k+ monsters, you should have that data somewhere and should be able to easily post it for others to validate. Also, you should have held all variables constant while testing. This means gathering the whole sample at the same time, with the same equipment, level, titles, stats, and so forth. If this isn't the case, you have a flawed statistical method and any conclusions drawn from your data are invalid, regardless of how large the sample ended up being.

I would like to amend this post slightly.

The 30% cap was originally presented with research and sample data. Therefore, to rescind it, one needs to provide new data. In other cases it may or may not be necessary to provide such data.

However, Gemini, an administrator reverted your edit, which means you are not allowed to re-edit it. If I catch you doing it again, I'll ban you.

to back none of my videos i make never upload to youtube so i can't provide data y don't one u u try it out like i suggested and ANYTHING i have EVER typed is always erased adn replaced with something else that says the exact some thing

If something is "being erased and replaced with the same thing" it's likely that your English is just being corrected. If you're offended by that, a wiki might not be the best place for you... This is very common fare.

Anyway I don't mean "video evidence" of "hey look I get crits like all the time, really" I mean like a massive spreadsheet with lots of recorded data and math and scientific study. This should of course be tested on mobs with known protection, or you should forge a min > max weapon to discover the protection of the mobs you wish to run the trial on via such means as this.

It's a lot of work so I would recommend you consider it carefully before endeavoring to do such a thing. There are players that enjoy stats and contribute these sorts of tests and science for us as it is, and it will probably be better and easier for you to trust their judgement.

science, math, and computer my favorite subjects GPA of 3.85 after college but i never did any of the math i just recorded how many sticks were crits in increments of 100

and the stuff not being corrected it being completly rephrased with the same meaning

but i can do the math but the counts i not have the sheet i recorded the number count on this was i did the counts before G18S2 no one said i had to show any math or anything the first time but i know what is happening with me and that not matter if i have a weapon or bare handed i get crits that amount to my bare hand percentage

Things can very often seem right and not actually be right. That's why we have science.

anyway i just know how my crit is working that is all

^^^I'm going to have to agree on that. All talk and no proof makes your statements kinda invalid. I'm not saying you're wrong, but no valid proof makes it hard to believe.

Please don't edit those sections like that again. They aren't your soapbox.

well it is true

and when i clicked edit no text showed even when i reloaded the page so not my fault there something wrong with page

The Nao support was never intended to be in the VIP service. It's a fault from using the old Premium Service system again.

the the game still not fixed and now lots of people that used to be able to get into tara can't and my cores only at usage 50% and my internet runs more then prefect so there is still something wrong with the game

It's fixed, but running really slow due to the Client.exe being encrypted now. I'm not much of a computer whiz, but...according to some research, Tara is working fine, however due to the encryption of the the client, it takes a long time processing the incoming data. People crash at tara (and Taill in some cases) due to the fact that all the incoming data gets "clogged," causing the client to freeze up, then eventually force disconnect (or crash) due to getting lost somewhere along the way...I don't know all the details around this @@...

btw when i click on some things the text blinks then dissappear and if u type something it over rights everything that was there that is what happened when i typed that one thing where nothing else was there reloading and retrying not seems to work most of the time

and with 50% of my 2 cores percentage left and plenty of band width to spare i should not have info clog

in any event the game still has a problem they fix one thing and another pops up

and the crit is not capped at 30% i have my own research to prove it

i put some thing relevent about fire counter tactics and u just change it back so much for a free info site u not agree with it u just change it back this is not a free site this the sites creaters way of playing

and u admins need to experement more in game the thing i put up about fire counter is correct yet u don't think so so u deny it and change it back so much for free info posting y not just make your one private site if u going to be like that

The fire counter tactic you posted was already mentioned (though worded differently). I am not an admin, but Saiyr is.

And as well, this is a free site. That's why others have just as much privilege to edit the pages as you do. Heck, under the edit box, if you looked closely, it says this: "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here".

If you have research results like you said, you're welcome to share it, so long as it's obtained legitimately. But what's not as welcome is your complaints blaming other people and other things. And please stop removing records, it's not hard to click "undo" if it did happen by accident.

For future reference, if you do make edits, please use proper grammar when editing them into pages.

There's a lot of grammar issues lately...

well there is something wrong I click edit the text flashes in the box for a second and I try again and again and nothing something wrong with it so i can't edit it for some reason cause the text never shows up so there nothing to edit and if i type something in it over right everything in the box. About the critical % my base critical was 50% no enchants or weapon just bare hand and i was fighting some thing that had 2% protection and i hit that type of monster 300 times. The first 100 i got critical hits 54 times, the second 100 i got critical hits 48 times, the third 100 i got critical hits 52 times for an average of 0.51=51% tried with a weapon after and was the same results give or take a hit or 2.

You cannot base that on tests of 100-300. You need a large sample size in the thousands.

i did it twice i said so it was 600

You need a far bigger size than that. I'd say 5,000 at least.

after a year of playing adn my crit bare handed getting up to 80% i was criting all over the place i can tell u crit is not capped at 30% and i have prof for at whole year way more the 5k kills more like 100k kills i kept track of if that not enough to convice u then u need to get your crit bare hand to 80% adn redo your own tests

Crit's capped at 30%, I would know since I can easily obtain 150% crit.