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You can obtain a Zeder and a Training Bullet from an engineer NPC next to every tradepost in Uladh. Also, the girl in Shyllien sells Training Bullets (no gun). (None sell ordinary bullets as far as I know.) I don't think there's any other legit way to get guns other then production and gachapon UNLESS you make a new character in the gun talent but I'm not sure if that's a Zeder or a beginner version of the Zeder.

As far as I know, production mastery does not effect the new life skills, I'll look into this.

Pyro - (Talk)17:20, 4 August 2013

There is no beginner version of the Zeder II. It is the normal Zeder II.

 

If you can, look into Shyllien Ecology. There's absolutely no data for it.

Infodude575 (talk)17:53, 4 August 2013
 

It should be identical to Mineralogy. Only differences I noticed so far (though I had more experience with engineering than magic craft) is:

  • Shyllien spots spawn everywhere, unlike in mineraology where its only ore deposits near the walls, that being said the maps are moreso full than odd-shaped hillwen maps where its mostly small areas with long walls.
  • Shyllien doesn't randomly explode like hillwen does, so it's 5 gathers per. (With more gathers with higher tiered spots.)
  • Hillwen spot quality is determinable by the size of the ore (a small ore on floor 2 isn't as good as a large in floor 2, but I think a small in floor 2 is better than a medium in floor 1, not sure). But Shyllien seems to look different with each tier. I've only see two tiers so far because the rest are nearby dangerous monsters. One is the herbs, you'll see them on floor 1 (if other players don't gather it before you can), the other is a weird purple round mist on floor 2 and 3.
  • Also, Shyllien's first floor and lobby are merged, so the teleport NPC only takes you to two more floors, whereas the first floor of hillwen is separate from the lobby.
Pyro - (Talk)20:50, 4 August 2013
 

Explode as in what? The entire pile goes kaput?

Infodude575 (talk)00:34, 5 August 2013
 

Hillwen sometimes prematurely runs out of ore, without depleting the entire source. When this happens, you will be knocked back as if you failed.

Pyro - (Talk)00:40, 5 August 2013
 

Exactly how big are Shyllien and Hillwen? The room we only see in gens isn't really huge (though for Hillwen that's just the lobby). Also, how dangerous are the monsters inside there, and are there any bandits looming around Hillwen still?

Infodude575 (talk)09:41, 5 August 2013
 

The rooms are a lot bigger, especially the hillwen ones. For example, you know how running around in Iria leaves a trail? Look at the Hillwen floor 2 map, not imagine that your trail is smaller than your marker on the map. There aren't any "bandits", but there are annoying monsters like small pink bunnies, larger purple bunnies, purple venus fly traps, purple yetis, emerald hyenas (ice hyena pretty much), emerald cows (ice cows), emerald shriekers, emerald golems (crystal golems), etc. And the better the ore spot, the more multiaggro in one spot. It is hell, you'll see what I mean in a few days.

Pyro - (Talk)11:02, 5 August 2013
 

Would you say the monsters are of Scathach level difficulty?

T_T This is gonna be pain...

Oneris (talk)11:54, 5 August 2013

I WANT to say how strong/weak they are but it's hard to because I'm afraid to touch the golems and yetis. . . And I haven't attempted Scathach in KR. I'll check if they have a trans entry next time I get in KR but I really doubt it, none of these monsters have new models.

Pyro - (Talk)14:35, 5 August 2013
 

Poke them with Firebolt then run away :P

Infodude575 (talk)16:22, 5 August 2013
 

So A: I need firebolt. B: I need a mount on KR Test that is faster than golem.

Pyro - (Talk)20:26, 5 August 2013
 

Aren't there a lot of obstacles in the area?

Also how far spread out are the mobs, and how much of the area do they take, that is, are they literally everywhere?

Infodude575 (talk)23:33, 5 August 2013
 

Obstacles? In Hillwen, only on the first floor (the one with no enemies that everyone will be grinding at so you won't find any filled deposits). I don't remember for Shyllien, I'll try to check, but it takes forever to get there with such slow mounts. . .

Pyro - (Talk)23:37, 5 August 2013
 

Does the Shapeshifting Diary have any entries on those monsters in there?

Infodude575 (talk)12:20, 5 August 2013