Talk:Cylinder Upgrades

I propose we add four columbs to the upgrades, to indicate which servers it has been discovered on? Who agrees/disagrees? Edetha 06:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Disagree, since all the servers have the same upgrades ~kotarou3 ^TALK_CONTRIBS 08:17, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

But each server hasn't gotten all of the upgrades yet, so one might go "OOH I WANT THIS UPGRADE", see it, and then go to find out that it isn't out, then rage and vandalise the wiki or something --Claypot19 17:57, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Users who are that immature will just be banned. Tellos 18:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't think what Claypot said would actually happen, but I am seriously all for what Edetha suggested. You have to discover the upgrade on a server in order for everyone to use it, it wouldn't be that hard, we could just add 4 small columns saying which server its found on. --Marthian 10:11, 28 November 2010 (PST)

Like this? I haven't done the actual research, just the wiki markup. Pokey 17:10, 20 January 2011 (PST)

Upgrade Name	Proficiency	Upgrade Details	UG #	Cost	NPC	Discovered?
						Mari	Ruari	Tarlach	Alexina
Trigger Change	20	Critical +4%	0~4	4,000	Eabha Heledd	N/A
(Discoverer's Name)'s Weight Reduction 1	5	Stamina Consumption -5%	0~4	500		Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
(Discoverer's Name)'s Weight Reduction 2	8	Stamina Consumption -6%	1~4	800		Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
(Discoverer's Name)'s Weight Reduction 3	12	Stamina Consumption -7%	2~4	1,200		Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
(Discoverer's Name)'s Weight Reduction 4	20	Stamina Consumption -8%	3~4	2,000		Yes	Yes	Yes	No
(Discoverer's Name)'s Weight Reduction 5	30	Stamina Consumption -12%	4~4	7,000		No	No	No	No

Stamina Reduction

If applied onto an elemental cylinder, does the reduction apply to all types of alchemy? --κєνıи _{(»тαıĸ«)} 22:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Edetha 18:43, 18 November 2010 (PST)

“	Some upgrades can't be used until they are discovered. Upgrades are discovered by Royal Alchemists at random.	„

How does discover work? What's written here is too vague.

From what I recall, you get a message and I believe a message scrolls across the channel of the RA that discovered it.

• Does the RA need to do anything to discover it?
• Do the discovery upgrades reset at all?

Use Alchemy skills, offensively or defensively. Discovery upgrades do not reset as I recall. I believe once it is found...it just sorta sits around, kinda like Seal Stones. Name's there but they may or may not be playing the game anymore.

When it says 'Water Element Alchemy Skill's Damage +5', does it mean maximum and minimum damage?