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Master bandits

Fragment of a discussion from Talk:Commerce

Yes.

Doomsday31415 (talk)18:58, 16 November 2014

I'll go ahead and get a little more specific on that point. I got Bunk Beds(9680~12320 ducats) from Tara, and I ran into the bandits on the far east side of Sen Mag heading to Bangor. I haven't had a chance to experiment more with my glitch though, but I'm defiantly going to do it with lower quality goods, with stacks in good round numbers (like stacks of 50, 100 etc) so I'm not getting too weird of numbers when calculating what percentage of goods I've lost... Also Tarlach Server, but that wouldn't have any effect on whether or not Master Bandits spawn.

Sath (talk)08:41, 17 November 2014

I don't recall anyone ever coming up with the complete formula for what type of bandit spawns. It involves the distance traveled and the item value, but for all we know it could also involve the item profit, buy price, or sell price, which (as far as I know) varies between servers.

Sen Mag is absurdly far from Tara, so I can see Master bandits spawning there. I still think you're crazy for casually fighting them, though.

When you say "(9680~12320 ducats)", I hope you aren't talking about the buy~sell price. That's insane if you are.

Doomsday31415 (talk)16:42, 17 November 2014

If you're really ridiculously strong, master bandits aren't that big of a deal. My best guess is that the total buy price and distance from original trade post determines the type of bandits spawned. Another plausible theory would be the total sell price at the nearest trade post determines the type of bandits spawned.

Also, for what it's worth, I think the buy price is the same across all servers, assuming players are at the same merchant rating. A higher merchant rating does give a 1~3% discount on the buy price.

Blargel (talk)16:47, 17 November 2014

The number of people who can fight Master Bandits like that are few and far between, and based on the fact that they got away, Sath is not one of them.

I lack any characters on other servers to test it, but a while back I kept track of all the people buying Lovely Potions. I came to the conclusion that each server had its own supply based on my success there.

Doomsday31415 (talk)19:49, 17 November 2014
 

Everyone who can do Outlaw hunting/pursuit, with certain ease, can handle Masters. Which isn't that small a number, you're underestimating the server as a whole.

Sakura502 (talk)20:08, 17 November 2014

Outlaw hunting doesn't cut your damage in half and prevent the use of pets.

Doomsday31415 (talk)11:24, 18 November 2014
 

with certain ease

Keywords.

Sakura502 (talk)16:29, 18 November 2014

I can handle Master bandits easily if it's not during commerce. It still takes me almost the entire time allowed to take down the Master Bandit bosses.

The number of people who are capable of handling them during commerce without any real risk isn't my point, regardless. My point is that Sath, the person who encountered them, isn't one of those people.

I personally wouldn't do as dangerous a route if there's such a risk of losing goods. Hence why I originally thought they were doing a shorter route and didn't need to worry about Master bandits (which lead to my question).

Doomsday31415 (talk)18:54, 18 November 2014