Generation post Quests Reorganization

We could just...Subpage them and link it at the end for anyone wanting to do them...I mean they still occupy their proper tabs (i.e. Alchemist Quest tab has All the post-generation stuff.). Yay...nay? Thoughts and complaints? I mean it's pretty obscure just sitting here and they hardly get updated as is ._.

I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting besides moving them to subpages. I just think they should all get pages if any do. (And "G17" [which I regrettably called Generation 17], should be demoted back.)

It might be easier to move it somewhere like "Generation #:Name of Generation/Post-Generation" or something. Honestly, being here in this obscure page makes it hard for anyone looking.

It might as well be organized by the tabs they appear on. However, for instance, I'm pretty sure the fighter quests don't go in a generation quest tab, do they? I guess I don't really remember anymore.

Fighter quests do not go anywhere and is found in the normal tab.

I'm against giving any relevance of things like the Metal Conversion tab to "G9" or "G10". I won't object to "Chapter 3" or "The Alchemist", but saying G9 or G10 is way too out there and irrelevant.

If that quest goes in the G9 tab, I don't see why not. Obviously, it would go as a subpage of the actual generation 9 page, which "G9" redirects to.

If you're trying to say something against the G# convention, it's a standard convention that every seasoned player recognizes, so it's necessary to support it, albeit necessary to make the official name of the generation be the page title - as it already is. So your objection is kind of irrelevant in that case.

You get metal conversion quest during G9. It came out in G10S2. And its in the Alchemist tab (the tab isn't just for G9).

Shamala and Nightmare is irrelevant to "G17". THey are both deemed sidequests by both KR and NA, and the only reason we decided to give them their own page was because in early updates of the Drama/Saga, they were prerequisites to the Drama/Saga (that requirement turned out to be removed and never added to NA). I was the one who requested that they go to their own page, which I don't regret (though I do regret putting the false label "Generation 17:" before it).

My points are:

• Shamala/Nightmare should be renamed as to not have the "Generation 17:" tag I previously added. Just because there isn't a generation quest in that update doesn't mean we bump up the nearest sidequest to that status. G4, 5, and 6 didn't have generation quests, I see this as no different. And if we were to update the status of a sidequest to mainstream quest, why Shamala/Nightmare? Huw's quest chain is just as relevant to the topic, and it came first.
• I am fine with Shamala/Nightmare getting their own page, so long as every sidequest gets its own page. All or nothing.
• I think Sidequests can be lumped together by tab, saying "Alchemist Tab Sidequests" or something similar to that, but not by "Generation 9 Quests" or shit like that. Besides, the latter wouldn't be as easily recognizable to new players as the old one, nor do the masses of seasoned players know that terminology either. But if one is to look for help in a quest they have in the Alchemist tab, then it would be simple search.
• Labeling things like "G9S2" or the like is really confusing. As said, Metal Conversion is obtained after G9 but came out in G10. Likewise does the Story of Golven, came out in G14 but obtainable after G13 (or was it Ascon that was like that?).

The shorthand would obviously not be the main label. Also, I was thinking about the subpages not separate pages with names. If the sidequests did have their own subpages, they may or may not have a generation name depending on how it's titled otherwise. I think it would be too wordy of a title though, so Alchemist: Metal Conversion Quest would be fine; Generation 9: Alchemist: Metal Conversion Quest would be ok just kinda wordy. The generation designation modifies the generation name in that context, not the subquest itself.

In my opinion, long quest chains may as well have their own pages. I think this page was originally intended for one-quest quests. However, I'm sort of used to have sidequests that come directly after a main quest chain be associated with that generation and its quest chain. Like Pierrick's violet flowers quest or more appropriately the Dark Knight subquest for G3. I really hope I wouldn't have to draw a technical line between what's a generational subquest and non, in that regard.

Things like "Alchemist: Metal Conversion Quest" sound fine.

I was thinking more along the terms of (G9 for example) Generation 9: Alchemist/Sidequests. if you wanna lump them based on Tabs, it would be Chapter 3: Alchemist Sidequests and lump them all there. Same with Shakespeare (Chapter 4: Shakespeare Sidequests and so on for anything listed here. Dark Knight Quests needs to be moved though...probably Generation 3/Dark Knight Quest or move it to Dark Knight's page?

If they're no longer going to use Generation nor Chapter terms, what about all sidequests thatwill come out in the future? Will they all be dumped in Chapter 4 until they start using a tab other than Shakespeare, then we go Chapter 5: _New_tab_name_? Why not just use the tab name as the prefix and cut off the Generation/Chapter. And as I said, things like Metal Conversion, Golvan, etc can be argued to be a part of two generation (G9 or 10 and G13 or 14 respectively). It will get way too confusing and you use Generation you'd end up with one page for just one small sidequest at times.