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Hero Talent Skills

Fragment of a discussion from Talk:Talent
 
 
If you train the skill nonstop, using the skill immediately as cooldown finishes and do not take break, it will take 69 and a half hours to get this skill to r1
 

 

—Pyrus

I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing at that amount of time...Non-stop...oh god that long? Bwahahha...ha.....ha....okay so remind me again, how much is a card?

まそっぷ ! (talk)23:42, 13 October 2013

A Zero card should cost about 1k nx more than a basic card if we don't get the rebirth update. If we do get the rebirth update, the card will be the same price but won't be usable for rebirth and we'll instead use 39 pons (if it is consistent with KR's prices) which is about 3.9k nx if it were possible to buy pons in bundles of 1s. Though, a Zero, Hero, and Elite Hero character all start with rF of the hero skills, which doesn't really make sense to me. Wouldn't they want to capitalize on selling new characters that come with like r9 Emergency Escape?

And to be honest, I feel like they're running out of ideas. For example, for Druid and Vate, they had plenty of ideas so they had a fourth skill which they had to keep out of the hero talent, in both cases a mastery skill. However, in Diva's case, Singing is more or less an active mastery skill like Playing Instrument is, they probably couldn't think of a fourth singing skill so they left Singing in the hero talent rather than the music talent. In Master Chef's case, Food Mastery is obviously a mastery, same case. On the other hand, Emergency Escape has nothing to do with making money, adventure, doing exploration, or guns. And on top of that, Exploration Mastery is obviously a mastery, so treasure hunter was really lacking.

Pyro - (Talk)00:51, 14 October 2013
 

Rebirth update?

Infodude575 (talk)01:00, 14 October 2013

Along with the Dream Update in KR, they made it so you can rebirth weekly regardless of age, and cards are no longer used for rebirth. (So they removed basic cards, and you have to pay 1k extra nx for a zero card to make a new character but it's worth it.) In addition, they also changed beginner benefits. They raised the beginner lvl to 1000, added a bunch of new quests items, shadow mission privilages starting lvl 50, etc. Along with the preexisting benefits of being able to reset skills at duncan and rebrith every 24 hours.

  • So if you're under total 1k, rebirth once a day.
  • Over lvl 1k, rebirth every 7 days.

This is an nerf in that you have to wait 7 days to rebirth now, you can't pay nx to rebirth every 6 days like you do now, but it's still better to wait an extra day and not have to pay. The 39 pon thing was added as compensation to this so unlikely we'd get the 39 pon thing if we don't get this.

Around the same time, JP also had a rebirth update where they kept card rebirthing and everything, but you now can rebirth every three weeks regardless of age. This is a buff in that free players rebirth to age 10 and get extra aging AP while still triweekly RBing, but it's a nerf in that you can't 2+1 rebirth anymore (two rebirths in three weeks).

In my opinion, unlikely we'd get either, though hopefuly we get KR's version and in my opinion, our version is better than JP's. And if we do get either, I doubt it would be generation-bound.

Pyro - (Talk)01:10, 14 October 2013
 

What about free rebirthing in their cases? I don't pay for cards.

Infodude575 (talk)01:27, 14 October 2013
 

Don't pay for cards or pons, don't get Hero talents. Only exception is the free card you start your account with, first ever talent can be a Hero talent, but you will only start with some of the hero skills, not all (a free diva starts with Singing and Encore but not Phantasmal Chorus) and you have to pay to maintain that talent if you rebirth. And if you choose a non-hero talent for your first talent oh well no hero talent for you without paying.

Pyro - (Talk)01:38, 14 October 2013
 

...meh slightly disappointed :s

まそっぷ ! (talk)01:02, 14 October 2013