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Revisiting some old ideas

Fragment of a discussion from Talk:Wiki Home

Whoa, blast from the past. I recall looking at it. i found it a bit unintersting and the only thing I saw useful would be the wiki nav at the bottom. Here's my insight:

  • Skill Training Methods (while they stretch the page, yes) makes it harder for new/average users to edit the skill method should something update. To save themselves trouble, it's easier to make it editable, rather than leave it in one big header and risk bad editing due to editing the wrong area of the tabs.
  • Wiki Navigation was never discussed. I found it to be a staple in many wikis and makes it easier to hop around...unfortunately the entire page had little to no input and well...it went under/never used.
    • It could be hidden or it could be like a small table. Only problem is how far down it would be. most people would scroll back up and search the skill since...this wiki never had a wikinav. I would utilize it in a heartbeat.
    • Of course, that would mean every page would have to have one (to some degree, I think there might be exceptions) if the wiki decides to use the navigation, and of course, it'll be a template that will be transcluded across the wiki. Problem is, Talent is the only page that has too many transcludes, so getting on on there will require much reworking on the Talent page.
  • I'm not sure how I feel about the ToC being listed at the top like that. The standard ToC is fine.
    • It might work to some degree, but I found it akward looking (maybe I'm used to the current layout too much and I'm being biased lol.)
  • Personally, I feel skill details could be cleaned up further. As it stands now, it's okay. Can't complain, but gets the job done.
  • Battle Tactic is...debatable. There's too many ways people use skills and it risks making the page messier than it should be. It'll add some insight, but overall not a lot of people will use it in t particular way. I mean, there's the obvious well known strategies like N+Smash and such, but I feel it can easily be cluttered.

I agree. Beyond basics like N+Smash, specific combos/team-strategies/tactics should probably be kept to Monster-specific pages.

My thinking is that this will keep some very esoteric strategies under enemies that may need them. Also, looking at it from the end-user's perspective, monster pages are often only searched if one is having trouble overcoming a specific kind of mob (or theory-crafting more efficient methods of dispatching them). They would sooner turn to the page for the problem mob/dungeon rather than reference individual skill pages.

Euphie (talk)06:12, 28 June 2014