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Range/Radius

Range/Radius

Is there even a difference between those two? o-o

Infodude57510:50, 1 July 2012

no, not at all...though while we're on this subject, r1 windmill with knuckles is the range of rF it seems...that's a ballpark estimate.

S•A•R•I•A23:32, 1 July 2012
 

It feels more like halved to me...

Infodude57523:40, 1 July 2012
 

Maybe cause I'm using a giant...you know how height makes a difference qq *is short in real life*

S•A•R•I•A23:46, 1 July 2012

Unless it was changed for like the 3rd time, being a giant (as in taller than humans/elves) WM doesn't get any range increase.

DANTE20XX23:57, 1 July 2012
 

What???

 
 
Note that the Radius is the base size of Windmill while the range is the additional radius based on the size of the user's hitbox.
 

 

S•A•R•I•A00:02, 2 July 2012
 

I think that's wrong. It's old information, too. I think I know how it works now. Inamomenteventtime.

 

I think that only affected monsters...or at least now it seems to be the case. Golem bosses have a giant radius.

DANTE20XX00:19, 2 July 2012
 

*pat pat*

Try using it on a different character, unless they don't have R1 WM?

Infodude57523:48, 1 July 2012
 

they don't x-x;

S•A•R•I•A23:52, 1 July 2012
 

Question: Where did the initial range/radius values come from?

For Knuckles? Power of assumption!

... Can they even be found in the game's files?

Infodude57523:55, 1 July 2012
 

That's why I'm asking. There's no reference to any of these range/radius values and none of themmatch the ingame files.

 

... Seriously how do people even test for Range...

Infodude57500:07, 2 July 2012

You count the tiny number of pixels. LUL.

 

Well I'm gonna record a video of me (on my bro's char) of windmilling my main (qq) with a healing wand, then Bracer knuckles...then Repeat it a few times to see where I go with it...to maximize everything I kinda had to resort to..."Stuff"...to get a good view...qq screenshot mode doesn't cut it...

also I'm gonna get it to where it is at the farthest range possible.

S•A•R•I•A00:11, 2 July 2012
 

*keeps patting*

Infodude57523:54, 1 July 2012
 

Well, I'm on my brother's account and gonna test windmill on..well..myself...*testsubject* D:

S•A•R•I•A00:01, 2 July 2012
 

Just wondering but should I upload it as well?

S•A•R•I•A00:17, 2 July 2012
 

Forget the video...inconsistant attacks...so below I've provided 2 images of the most common end point.

For accuracy, I stood in the middle, where all the tilesets meet as the center of the hitzone of windmill.

WM Normal Range.png
WM Knuckle Range.png

Test was conducted with rank 1.

S•A•R•I•A00:42, 2 July 2012
 

wat. doesnt seem like mine hits that far. :C

 

Seems like 60% though, if Mikaya's results are accurate.

 

I don't have a ruler. You should make both images properly align though.

Infodude57500:44, 2 July 2012
 

You could try re-conducting the same test, but after doing the bracer knuckle r1 one, use a capsule from the event to get rF then after the test rerank it.

Pyro - (Talk)00:44, 2 July 2012

Or find another character with ranks F-6...

 

But this method would allow you to not change your camera angle, providing the most accurate results possible.

Pyro - (Talk)00:49, 2 July 2012
 

Ehh well...funny thing, I think my bro got on to the char before i did because I didn't get a reset cap...

S•A•R•I•A00:51, 2 July 2012
 

To be honest, i'm not sure if I should extend the line to the center of my character's center.

S•A•R•I•A00:45, 2 July 2012
 

Aligned Knuckles to Normal.png

the extra vertical red line is the approximation of my character's center.

S•A•R•I•A00:50, 2 July 2012
 

Well...I think I'll just leave this here and edit the values on the summary page. good night x_x also I broke my dress while doing this. xD

S•A•R•I•A00:59, 2 July 2012
 

Hmm....I wish I could find it but I'm pretty sure somebody already posted a video on the wiki somewhere testing the range. They killed a rat with a pet and they had the finish rule to anybody in party. Then they stood kinda close to the monster with WM loaded using knuckles and it said they were out of range. Then they switched weapons and loaded WM again...this time they could hit.

DANTE20XX01:17, 2 July 2012
 

I don't know who posted it, but I know I found it from the wiki one day after fighter update.

DANTE20XX01:20, 2 July 2012
 

The reason I didn't post a video was because:

  • Displacement lag. Sometimes the range seemed short than it should be, and other times it seem to hit outside the maximum.
  • Inconsistency with range.
  • I did this with 2 high-end computers. However when my main moved, it didn't move on the other computer I was at until a bit later.
S•A•R•I•A12:40, 2 July 2012