Question

May I inquire on a page that needs update

I've been waiting a while for the Final Shot page to update but no one's gotten around to doing it. The Final Shot page has just been labeled "outdated" since the Archery Renovation; the Archery Renovation happened in June. It's Halloween knocking on the doors of November and the page is still outdated. I know many people seem to forget about Final Shot but it shouldn't just be ignored completely. All of the other archery skills have been updated including the new Urgent Shot skill but not Final Shot. Looking for information on Final Shot (on the only site that has it) and it being blatantly incorrect is kind of a let down. Can someone please update the Final Shot page please so that it's accurate with the current Final Shot? Pretty Please? :) I've included the patch notes here: mabinogi.nexon.net/News/All/9/00IZv/mabinogi-renovation-archery-patch-notes

If it's possible

You can.

id try to, but my Final Shot is only rank E, my ap is being consumed by other stuff, and i dont rly use archery very often....much less fs, since for me it does very little, all i can say is that compared to the changes to fh, fs got basically nothing...

Since copy-pasting or locating the work that Infodude has graciously done is 2difficult4everybody, I have edited the page as I have spare time while waiting for classes, and have added info to the summary that should have been there a long time ago.

Also, if anybody has any questions, keep them to the infernal skillpage's talk, I cannot for the life of me figure out why this was placed on the page of someone who hasn't done a thing on the wiki in two years and not the skillpage itself.

• If everything is all done and up to date, don't forget the outdated tag.
• "However, teleporting reduces the skill duration time, so it should be used accordingly." - Does the in-game description still actually say this?

this i can actually help with, ill check my FS skill description and update the description as needed

You REALLY didn't need to put this in 3 different places. The Final Shot page would have been fine.

Except there's like two, three discussions on Final Shot Renovation there already. Given what Surrept said, I don't blame this user for stressing out how outdated Final Shot is.

Thank you Infodude. I appreciate your help and understanding as well as all the other helpful individuals who updated the page with their conjoined efforts.

Talking to Sakura502; you put the information about loading time decrease being N/A due to archery skills no longer having load times and stuck it underneath the stats box. Reading the updated page after it was graciously updated by the generous persons in this talk I still saw the "loaded skills decrease" in the skill description. This lead me to believe that the archery skills still had a load time. I had gotten into an embarrassing conversation with someone about this where I claimed there was load time and the other person saying there wasn't and claimed it was on the page. Checking the details where I thought such information would naturally be I didn't find it and proceeded to tell the person it wasn't there.

They told me otherwise so I read the page over 11 times trying to find where this information was only to find it hidden underneath the status graph chart in "fine print". It was VERY hard to find. Usually for "skill information" that pertains to the skill, its updates/changes and how it's used would normally be in "Details," so I moved it to details hoping to make it more noticeable for people seeking information in one localized area which it did and I notified it as such in my edit summary. Sakura undid my edit claiming that it was noticeable just the way it was before and that's simply not true. It only makes logical sense for details about a skill to be in the "details" area of the page instead of hiding it in small print under the stats. I even put the info under the bullet point where it talks about "decreased archery skill loading" so you see the information about it being N/A in logical order after it talks about "Loading skills." It's noticeable, and relevant with the details already there. I fail to see the flaw in my logic unless your intent was to purposely play "Where's Waldo" with information. If I'm ignorant please clarify my misunderstanding because I must be missing something here. I undid the undo but if I'm in the wrong can someone please explain to me how so I can better understand?

I just found putting an asterisk for the "foot note" that went inside a bullet point to be pretty pointless. You normally find footnotes way under the block of text, not inside it.

Done. It now says that the load time decrease feature does nothing on both details and skill summary.

All archer skills had some loading time before the Genesis update. However, Final Shot's loading time decrease feature was left intact, and is still there as of today (why it wasn't touched even in Renovation is beyond anyone). Because there's no time to decrease, the feature effectively does nothing at all.

Thank you again Infodude! I wondered myself why it's apart of the wiki page at all if it does nothing but since it "technically" is still apart of the skill I guess it still deserves to be put in the current information of the skill page despite relevance. I just wanted to make sure everyone saw it plain as day instead of looking for it. In terms of why it wasn't touched...who knows. Perhaps they forgot? Perhaps they said screw it? Perhaps they know something we don't, maybe without that in the skill somehow the skill fails. Like trying to install Windows Software but using hacking methods to take out internet explorer. The entire OS doesn't function correctly cuz Internet Explorer is tied to the File Explorer which is the basis of file functions. Ah well whatever the reason at least now the information is easy to find for all who search for it ^_^