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Fragment of a discussion from User talk:Aramet

Except there's like two, three discussions on Final Shot Renovation there already. Given what Surrept said, I don't blame this user for stressing out how outdated Final Shot is.

Infodude575 (talk)12:25, 30 October 2015

Thank you Infodude. I appreciate your help and understanding as well as all the other helpful individuals who updated the page with their conjoined efforts.

Talking to Sakura502; you put the information about loading time decrease being N/A due to archery skills no longer having load times and stuck it underneath the stats box. Reading the updated page after it was graciously updated by the generous persons in this talk I still saw the "loaded skills decrease" in the skill description. This lead me to believe that the archery skills still had a load time. I had gotten into an embarrassing conversation with someone about this where I claimed there was load time and the other person saying there wasn't and claimed it was on the page. Checking the details where I thought such information would naturally be I didn't find it and proceeded to tell the person it wasn't there.

They told me otherwise so I read the page over 11 times trying to find where this information was only to find it hidden underneath the status graph chart in "fine print". It was VERY hard to find. Usually for "skill information" that pertains to the skill, its updates/changes and how it's used would normally be in "Details," so I moved it to details hoping to make it more noticeable for people seeking information in one localized area which it did and I notified it as such in my edit summary. Sakura undid my edit claiming that it was noticeable just the way it was before and that's simply not true. It only makes logical sense for details about a skill to be in the "details" area of the page instead of hiding it in small print under the stats. I even put the info under the bullet point where it talks about "decreased archery skill loading" so you see the information about it being N/A in logical order after it talks about "Loading skills." It's noticeable, and relevant with the details already there. I fail to see the flaw in my logic unless your intent was to purposely play "Where's Waldo" with information. If I'm ignorant please clarify my misunderstanding because I must be missing something here. I undid the undo but if I'm in the wrong can someone please explain to me how so I can better understand?

Blackjackz (talk)00:51, 2 November 2015

I just found putting an asterisk for the "foot note" that went inside a bullet point to be pretty pointless. You normally find footnotes way under the block of text, not inside it.

Sakura502 (talk)11:53, 2 November 2015
 

Done. It now says that the load time decrease feature does nothing on both details and skill summary.

All archer skills had some loading time before the Genesis update. However, Final Shot's loading time decrease feature was left intact, and is still there as of today (why it wasn't touched even in Renovation is beyond anyone). Because there's no time to decrease, the feature effectively does nothing at all.

Infodude575 (talk)01:10, 2 November 2015

Thank you again Infodude! I wondered myself why it's apart of the wiki page at all if it does nothing but since it "technically" is still apart of the skill I guess it still deserves to be put in the current information of the skill page despite relevance. I just wanted to make sure everyone saw it plain as day instead of looking for it. In terms of why it wasn't touched...who knows. Perhaps they forgot? Perhaps they said screw it? Perhaps they know something we don't, maybe without that in the skill somehow the skill fails. Like trying to install Windows Software but using hacking methods to take out internet explorer. The entire OS doesn't function correctly cuz Internet Explorer is tied to the File Explorer which is the basis of file functions. Ah well whatever the reason at least now the information is easy to find for all who search for it ^_^

Blackjackz (talk)17:36, 2 November 2015