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User:Rydian/Speed

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Intro

This page has some tests and info about speed boosts in Mabinogi.

If you're concerned with real-time DPS testing, see User:Rydian/DPS instead for info and comparisons.

On this page, "melee" is anything you physically whack the enemy with up close, including using wands/cylinders as beat sticks.

Attack Delay Reduction

  • Certain things like wings, buff potions, and Vivace can reduce your attack delay by a certain percentage.
    • This reduces the down time after a hit before you can attack again, meaning more rapid attacks.
  • Equips and buffs are multiplicative.
    • A Very Slow weapon under Final Hit with Grandmaster Wings would have a delay of (1000 * 0.8 * 0.7) = 560ms.

Equips

Set Effect Example Items Reduction Does Not Work On
Attack Speed Increase Saint Guardian Set
Chinese Dragon Set
Languhiris Chaser Set
Various Enchant Points
20% Fast / Very Fast Melee
Bows / Crossbows
Alchemy/Magic
Increases Attack Delay* Abyss Dragon Horns (M)
Abyss Dragon Horns (F)
10% Bows / Crossbows
Alchemy / Magic
Possessed Eiren Wings 10%
Champion Wings 10%
Master Wings 20%
Grandmaster Wings 30%
* Nexon derp, actually reduces delay.

Buffs

Buff Reduction Does Not Work On
Attack Delay Reduction Potion (10 min) 15% (Untested)
Final Hit 20% Anything non-melee
Fallen Fairy Summon 30% Bows/Crossbows
Way of the Gun 50% Anything non-gun
Magic Speed Potion 10% Anything non-magic
Vivace x% Alchemy/Magic (Speeds up charge time instead)
Bows/Crossbows (Used to increase aim speed, currently bugged)
Might of Ladeca 1 Weapon Speed Tier
i.e. Very Slow -> Slow
Anything that can't use Bash or Rage Impact
Very Fast weapons (as there's no faster tier)
Wind Guard

Tests

  • Measuring what the game insists for the attack delay with and without Grandmaster Wings shows the 30% clearly in effect.
    • Attack speed appears to cap at 400ms at the fastest.
    • Dual-wield (swords) or dual-attack (guns) are measured as an attack cycle, not individual hits.
  • Testing was done by recording the game at a high framerate and measuring the time an attack cycle took, but it's a rough estimation.
    • Testing was mainly done to confirm speed caps and show that the number given by the game is not what you should expect as a player unless you have -1 ping.
    • Inconsistent latency requires repeated testing and averaging and/or dropping outliers.
      • Mabi demands all data in order and takes multiple steps to do combat tasks, so the effects of latency are multiplied.
    • FPS issues can skew test results, especially where combat is concerned.
      • Mabi only reads input on rendered frames, so lower FPS = longer delays before you can attack again.

Single Melee

  • Scythes, Lances, knuckles, and anything you physically hit with has a delay that depends on the weapon's speed.
    • The extra hit from Lance mastery affects knockdown gauge, not attack speed, so it doesn't matter for this.
  • Final Hit reduces attack delay to 80% of normal before other bonuses kick in, this applies to knuckles and control bars and stuff too.
Item Intended Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Intended Delay (ms)
Tested Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Tested Delay (ms)
Very Slow 2H (Normals) 1000 700 - -
Very Slow 2H (Final Hit) 800 560 918 603
Slow 1H (Normals) 800 560 - -
Slow 1H (Final Hit) 640 448 757 543
Normal 2H (Normals) 600 420 - -
Normal 2H (Final Hit) 480 400 544 470
Fast 1H (Normals) 520 400 - -
Fast 1H (Final Hit) 416 400 - -
Very Fast 1H (Normals) 450 400 - -
Very Fast 1H (Final Hit) 400 400 - -

Dual Melee

  • Each dual-wield hit is the same delay as a normal hit (calculated normally), then multiplied by two.
    • Single hits still won't go below 400ms, which is why the lower bound for dual-wielding is 800ms.
Item Intended Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Intended Delay (ms)
Tested Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Tested Delay (ms)
Slow 2H (Dual Wield Normals) 1600 1120 - -
Slow 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit) 1280 896 - -
Normal 2H (Dual Wield Normals) 1200 840 - -
Normal 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit) 960 800 - -
Fast 2H (Dual Wield Normals) 1040 800 - -
Fast 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit) 832 800 - -
Very Fast 2H (Dual Wield Normals) 900 800 - -
Very Fast 2H (Dual Wield Final Hit) 800 800 - -

Archery

  • Bow speed affects recovery/reload time, but attack delay reduction bonuses don't seem to affect bow recovery time.
Item Intended Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Intended Delay (ms)
Tested Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Tested Delay (ms)
Slow Bow (Normals) 800 800 - -
Slow Bow (Magnum Shot) 800 800 - -
Slow Bow (Arrow Revolver) 800 800 - -
Normal Crossbow (Normals) 600 600 - -
Fast Bow (Normals) 520 520 - -

Guns

  • Each instance here is for the pair of shots.
Item Intended Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Intended Delay (ms)
Tested Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Tested Delay (ms)
Slow Guns (Normals) 1000 700 - -
Slow Guns (Way of the Gun) 500 400 - -
Very Fast Guns (Normals) 530 400 - -
Very Fast Guns (Way of the Gun) 400 400 702 700

Shuriken

Item Intended Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Intended Delay (ms)
Tested Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Tested Delay (ms)
Fast Shuriken (Normals) 700 490 - -
Very Fast Shuriken (Normals) 530 400 833 687

Chain Blades

  • Chain Blade attack speed depends on how close you are to the target.
    • The faster speed is if you're within less than half the max range.
    • The slower speed is used if you're over half the max range to the target.
Item Intended Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Intended Delay (ms)
Tested Delay (ms) Grandmaster Wings
Tested Delay (ms)
Fast Chain Blade (closer) 470 400 - -
Fast Chain Blade (further) 720 504 - -

Magic / Alchemy

  • Attack delay reduction buffs have no effect on charging speed or delay when firing.
    • Recovery after firing skills seems locked at 500ms.


Movement Speed

Racial

Based on comparison with various skill radii, each race has the following in-game base movement speed.

(Note that these measurements are rough and could use re-testing with more granular measurement later)

Race Units/Sec Speed %
Human ~380 100%
Elf ~500 131.58%
Giant ~450 118.42%

Equipment / Commerce

I measured the walk cycle of the elephant commerce mount at a high FPS (~120).

  • Nothing: (8.275-9.000) 0.725 seconds.
  • Fleet Feet: (10.383-11.050) 0.667 seconds.
  • Alpaca Robe: (8.617-9.217) 0.600 seconds.
  • Commerce Level 17: (8.008-8.483) 0.475 seconds.

Combining them...

  • 17+Fleet: (5.758-6.192) 0.434 seconds.
  • 17+Robe: (4.400-4.875) 0.475 seconds.
  • 17+Fleet+Robe: (15.125-15.558) 0.433 seconds.

So Fleet Feet are about 10% here, the robe is about 19-20%, commerce level 17 is about 52-53%, and the alpaca robe does not actually stack with the reforge.

I didn't bother with March Song or Shylock or other buff combinations because they don't work on the commerce mount anyways.