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Counterattack with Bows, Crossbows, and Atlatls does not use Bare-handed damage? | 10 | 11:27, 5 October 2013 |
Splash values | 7 | 22:31, 17 July 2012 |
Image | 1 | 18:33, 7 April 2012 |
That's news to me. Rather interesting that those all use actual damage while unloaded Dual Guns do not.
I found it strange, too. But my Fomor Highlander Long Bow and Fomor Arbalest did a lot more than Bare-handed. I'm assuming Atlatl is the same, too.
Might want to run tests on that. You might have been getting lucky with randomized damage
Pick something easy to kill that aggro like Skeletons or Brown Dire Wolves.
I'll taunt and get kicked around by foxes in a bit. ,I mean did you see my dual gun damage with counter?
Here's my short experiment on Atlatls:
Bare Hands damage:242~342
Counterattack test subject : Mutant Rabbit
Damage dealt:
701 (highest observed)
573(lowest observed)
699
629
633
671
Average: 651
Bone Atlatl without Javelins equipped damage range: 96~225
Damage dealt:
759 (highest observed)
543 (lowest observed)
713
703
651
649
Average : 670
Bone Atlatl with Long Javelin LT equipped damage range : 106~260
Damage dealt:
819 (highest observed)
623 (lowest observed)
811
669
767
775
Average: 744
From what it seems, my Atlatl counterattack does much more than bare hands, but the odd thing is that my bare hands has a higher max than my Atlatl yet I've never observed higher than a 701 with bare hands. Not even the crits on Bare Hands ever did higher than 700 (perhaps it's because of the Rabbit's low ranked Critical Hit) Maybe I didn't do enough experiments but then it's still odd how a 342 Max damage on average does less than a 260 Max Atlatl damage range. Not to mention my Bare Hand's Minimum Damage exceeds my Atlatl's Maximum Damage. It's very odd.
A sample size of six is not enough for an accurate interpretation. Thanks though.
Also, what rank Counterattack do you have?
Rank 1. I think I realized something as to why my Atlatl did more. It's enchanted with Untamed Caliburn, which gives 26 Max. Considering Atlatl does Bare Hand damage, that makes my "Bare Hand" damage 368 Max because of the presence of the enchants. I may be wrong though.
Hmm It appears I'm hitting the same with barehanded damage, until I put on a javalin, my case, a regular long one.
I think I will run tests on Bows and Crossbows, and then report and edit the page to fix any errors.