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Fragment of a discussion from Talk:Bread from Nao

What would the wiki or any community be if it didn't question its leaders? I never said it is my call. At least for me, growing up in a western society you're taught to not take everything blindly and give dissenting opinions when necessary or no social or structural progress well ever be made, or at least not at a decent pace. Had that comment been in a public thread I would comment on it and not feel the need to apologize for doing so because that is what the institution teaches you to do, not simply accept the institution without rational. Of course, they are by no means obligated to take into consideration, reply to, or even read a comment I or another user makes. That does not mean I cannot express my thoughts on a subject, especially if there is no rule against doing so. You don't have to take my advice but please do not discourage people to speak their mind on how things are run.

Kapra - (Talk)00:48, 14 May 2014
 
 
http://xkcd.com/1357/
 

 

Thanks for saving me from typing a wall of text jin!

There's a difference between questioning admins and spewing complete and utter bullshit. The only person I'm discouraging from speaking their mind is you, Pyro, because quite frankly, your thoughts tend to bring out the worst in people.

Yinato (talk)06:31, 14 May 2014
 

@Mystickskye As I said, "Of course, they are by no means obligated to take into consideration, reply to, or even read a comment I or another user makes." and "especially if there is no rule against doing so." And yes, perhaps I am an asshole. Better be an asshole than not call people out when they say shit, we all say shit.

@Yinato Excuse me? I didn't question the admins, as I said, it was not the appropriate place to have such a conversation, how can you accuse something I did not say of being bullshit? And just because something hurts or is uncomfortable or takes weeks or months to resolve doesn't make it not worth doing. Bringing out the worst in people can be productive. After all, its eventually down to yourself if you want to bring the worst version of yourself out.

Kapra - (Talk)16:01, 14 May 2014

While I agree with Nise, the stupidity of your post compelled me to post one more reply.

 
 
I didn't question the admins . . . how can you accuse something I did not say of being bullshit
 

 

First off, I didn't accuse you of something you didn't say. I said there's a difference between questioning admins and spewing bullshit, not that your questioning of admins was bullshit derp. Besides, since you said you didn't question admins, what of the two options does that leave? The bullshit I was referring to was the less-than-logical replies that you've made in this and other discussions over the years.

 
 
Bringing out the worst in people can be productive.
 

 

Saying that means that you understand that pissing people off with your ignorance can progress discussions, and that you accept the consequences that may arise (if you didn't, why would you have brought it up?). So thank you for giving us the okay to insult you every time you piss us off. Now quit your complaining.

 
 
After all, its eventually down to yourself if you want to bring the worst version of yourself out.
 

 

The ones who show that side to you feel that you are deserving enough to receive that kind of special treatment. You have no one to thank but yourself.

Yinato (talk)18:02, 14 May 2014
 

Let's just stop this now. Because this is almost as productive as making Info listen to us.

We solved the main discussion, which was nay or yay to Bread from Nao.

Nise Panda (talk)16:06, 14 May 2014