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Chapter 5
I'm not going to read the wall of text, have we come to a decision?
I...think?
So far, I think we've ((probably just me)) concluded the following
- Delete all mention of 'Chapter 5' and replace with 'The Saga - Iria'
- Shamala and Nightmare is not G17 but a Sidequest Prequel
- Does that mean it goes under Saga? Kinda a grey zone here.
- Kousai's Call on the Sidequest Page goes to G8
- Duncan's Call goes to Aging and Level Quests in Beginner Quests, not sure where exactly, maybe copied over all races' pages.
- All the Generation Sidequests are moved into individual pages called G#-Sidequests and placed as an alternate link after its Generation in the {{Generation}} tag, and/or linked after the main Generation, like the old Paladin PD and Dark Knight Quests.
- Bottled Note Quests are moved into own page?
- The Advancement Arena quests are deleted because they're already listed on the Advancement Arena page?
- The Sidequests Page is used as disambiguation for those moved quests?
Mind you, more than half the stuff on this list is probably still in debate somewhere in this thread, so I have no idea...
Implemented in G8 (I think), you get during G7 (or before since you actually have to activate it...) so that if you want to, you may skip to 8.
Shamala and Nightmare being a part of the Saga doesn't make sense since it was released before the Saga came out. I'd be more comfortable if we used "C# Sidequests" instead of "G# Sidequests" because G# would create more pages and would confuse people. Like some sidequests were released in G14 but can be completed after G13. And I think Shamala/Nightmare belongs in C4 Sidequests.
I would kinda like having long quests like Golvan and Ascon and Underground Waterway etc to have their own page, since they're already pretty long by themselves. Letsee...
- Andras Story: Must complete G9 to do, place after G9
- Grave with Violets: Keyword start, Gives backstory on Cai and Lena, place after G9 or on C3 sidequest page,
- Honey Drink: Keyword Start, Place on C3 Sidequest page
- Corrupt Alchemist: Optional during G9 start, or Keyword start, maybe place on either G9 or C3 sidequest, with a link to the other?
- Underground Waterway: place after G11
- Golvan: I think I got this after finishing R+J, place after G14
- Ascon: place somewhere before G15 as it is referenced in G15. For continuity's sake, I'd prefer after G14 as a kind of prequel to G15.
- Day of Liberation: Too short to put by itself, but there's nothing else on the C4 sidequest page, tack onto end of G15? or dump on the Belvast/Kinu/Admiral Owen page, with link to other
- Rush of Love: To long for C4 sidequest page, Guess it goes on its own after G16
- Puppeteer: Same as Rush of Love.
- Shamala and Nightmare: place after G16, but on its own without being grouped into G16
How does this look?
I'd rather have no page than place ANY sidequest on a generation page, that is the worst case scenerio imo. But I'm fine with them being on the main page like that, but Shamala and Nightmare are in the same position as Puppeteer and Rush of Love, not with greater priority.
They're not on a generation page, they're in between two, on a separate page, so you'd get on a G9 page an option to go to G10, or G9: Andras, or G9: Violets.
Honestly, I have little to no idea what to do with Puppeteer and Rust of Love. They're skill based quest chains and aren't tied to the mainstream, but have a strong story and are too long to go on a C4 sidequest page, and Rush of Love is credited in the journal, so obviously they're important. Would you prefer they not be grouped with any generation, and be put on the same level of importance as Shamala and Nightmare?
I'd rather, on the newmenu template, make a new column for sidequests and place all sidequests there, with no gen/chapter labels.
How about we put a section called "Sidequests" under Saga?
So like:
Mainstream Quests
- Not copypasting them all.
- Sagas
- Iria
- Sidequests
- Stuff and stuff?
Hmm, create and example of one under and one to the side and lets see how long/wide the table gets in an example of it on the main page.
Either of those ways would be okay, but what I don't like in that example is
- The Sagas
- Iria
So far there is only one Saga, and why are they separate?
Where else are we supposed to put it? Chapter 4?
If they do plan to continue the story without Gens, it'll probably be with Sagas.
Just thought I'd say that those side quests for puppet/fighter require you to equip a skill. It's essentially a skill quest chain, not a storyline based and there is no relation of the storyline whatsoever. Also I'd have to agree with Oneris on the whole Andras, Golvan and other things. Since it takes place directly towards completion of a generation, and it is part of the story, it would make sense to put it on the same page with a label saying "Post-Generation X." Same with DK quest e-e.
Oh woops..I just now realized that...uhh yeah I meant equip a weapon to initiate the skill chain...derp. You know what I meant. Though technically, equiping the weapon for the first time is like equipping a skill so...I'm not even gonna go into all the technicalities.