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Battle Tactics Clean-up/Revamp

Battle Tactics Clean-up/Revamp

Now that the talk paged is "cleaned up", we can start talking about the actual page!

After looking at the history and doing a small amount of clean up myself, it's become apparent that any attempt to add in all the "basic" tactics under the current definition here would bloat the page a massive amount. As such, we need to agree on some standard on how we're going to organize all this.

To start, I propose we separate the tactics into two main categories: basic and advanced.

The basic tactics would only include the most critical moves from each discipline; i.e. N+Defend, Ice+Counter, Ranged+Counter.
The advanced tactics would be divided into categories and separate pages, similar to weapons.

Let the discussion begin!

Doomsday31415 (talk)11:18, 27 February 2013

Don't put it in a separate page. Leave it all on a single page.

S•A•R•I•A (talk)11:20, 27 February 2013
 

If you don't like my proposal, please propose something yourself (or at least say why!). As it currently stands, there are hundreds of "solo tactics" that players can use, not even considering complex combos. A move that isn't even mentioned is Assault Slash, despite the fact it meshes well with many other skills and is a very useful skill to use.

I cannot agree with the stance that every tactic involving Assault Slash is obvious and therefore should not be included.
Doomsday31415 (talk)12:21, 27 February 2013
 

Usually it would be mentioned on the skill page. I say merge anything that sounds similar into a single unified tactic. some things still need to be reworded to accommedate changes

S•A•R•I•A (talk)12:24, 27 February 2013
 

We can just make a section on Assault Slash that explains how it can be used in combos. Rather than detailing the hundreds of combos that can utilize it.

Angevon (Talk)07:02, 28 February 2013
 

Cleaned it up a bit, removed/merged some tactics, reordered so that melee is first since this is usually what people do first when they do not have any prior knowledge of the game.

S•A•R•I•A (talk)11:20, 1 March 2013

I believe we should then get rid of all the "tactics" that are not very useful, i.e. tactics where another tactic is simply easier and/or stronger.

This would follow the logic of removing tactics that fit into this question: "Why should I do X tactic when I can just do Y?"
For example, why should I do "1+Icebolt" when I can just do "Bolt Spam" or "Standard Battle Tactic #1"?

Also, the subsections should have clearer dividers, since scrolling down it's hard to find where each subsection starts.

Doomsday31415 (talk)12:56, 1 March 2013
 

like this?:

Melee Based[edit]

Note: Some of these are not effective against monsters with Heavy Stander.

Standard Battle Tactic #1[edit]

  1. Knock Back an enemy using a combo attack or a skill.
  2. Load Defense; get attacked while in defense position.
  3. Repeat steps one and two.

Standard Battle Tactic #2[edit]

  1. Knock Back an enemy using a combo attack or a skill.
  2. Load Counterattack; knock down enemy by countering their attack.
  3. Load Defense; get attacked while in defense position.
  4. Repeat steps 1-3.
S•A•R•I•A (talk)18:43, 1 March 2013

Sorry, when I said subsections, I meant like "melee", "magic", etc.

Doomsday31415 (talk)09:34, 2 March 2013
 
 

Should we put the combos found in the beginner battle class boards located near each village chief in Vales and Filia and duncan of Tir???

S•A•R•I•A (talk)02:21, 2 March 2013