Continuity Errors

This thread is about consistancy errors regarding the story line of Mabinogi. This may or may not include retroactive continuity or "retcon" for short. Please make your own list and add to that post instead of making multiple posts. Also feel free to discuss any issues regarding the storyline.

Try to edit your own posts on continuity Errors, or any errors regarding plot holes, or retconned information. It's better than having multiple posts.

If there is an error that was likely caused by continuity, list them here.

• Brionac, the sword of the gods, was held by Lugh. It can be used to annihilate the gods just as the Parthalonian Brionac (The Caliburn) could.
• According to Seumas in Generation 2, The Partholons were still around and are able to control Fire Golems during the first battle of Mag Tuireadh. This is an an error since the Parthalonian race was wiped out long before this. It may be possible that it was the children of the Partholon race that survived, but evidence points to Tuatha de Danann and not the Partholons themselves.
• The Knight of Light's "Ghost" was retconned from Generation 2.
• During EP6's battle with Bhafel, Blade Wyverns are seen dead on the ground. The odd thing is that Bhafel can only summon Korsek Raptors.
• Redire's Demise with the Broken Bolt was retconned.
• Shamala was "attacked" by Millia as she escapes the maze she awakes from when she was captured by the unknown man. However this scene goes unexplained and Millia knows of Shamala, but has yet to hex her with said spell. This can only mean that it is a vision of things to come or something left in as an oversight...or perhaps it was intentional.

• Morrighan and Cichol broke off their friendship, had a quarrel that involved Shakespeare and Bella, THEN worked together to kill the Partholons.
• Morgant and Esras attack Ruairi and then he believes their lies sometime later. Also how is it that he doesn't consider Morgant a servant of Morrighan especially after "she" told him to kill Ruairi?
• Lugh somehow got Pragarah back from Ruairi.
• The cutscene for Episode 4's epilogue and the beginning of Episode 5 shows the old Filia.
• Akule has a truckload of working charms. How did it not in Episode 2 and we had to go through so much trouble in 4?
• Seriously, what the hell is the "Finest Marble" we had to get in Episode 1? We don't ask Akule about it at all, not even in 7.
• Hillwen Mine and Dual Guns was only recently discovered, if I'm not mistaken. How did Cessair's Heart get them?
• Ruairi says Tuatha de Danann don't age. What about their age stat, Triona and Mari as infants, Leymore, Jenna, and Andras as kiddies, and heck even the first generation of Tuatha de Dananns as kiddies too?
• Ruairi says Tuatha de Danann who somehow come into contact with the Soul Stream inherit Milletian-like trait. This does not seem to be the case with Cai.
• Whatever happened to Ruairi in his visit in Erkey Falls at Episode 9 is never explained.
• Whatever happened to the adult Ruairi and Tarlach in Sidhe Sneachta as shown during Episode 4 and the ending of Episode 7 is never shown in the Saga.
• In-depth of Gael and her husband/Millia's papa is never explained.

Also Mikaya, Tuatha de Danann are the children of the Partholon, you know. It could have been heredity or the Tuatha de Danann researched ancient history.

The Milletians who were knocked out by the Cessair at Raspa Volcano appear at the same time metallurgying after the Shaman's Sanctuary was destroyed.

Sigh, reused models? DevCAT must be really lazy...

The thing about Hilwen Mines and DGs is not a continuity error. The discovery of the mines and engineering stuff by giants may have been recent, but they've been there since before the elf/giant wars.

The episode 4/5 cutscene thing might not be an error. Ingame, all the changes to Iria just happened in the update but, iirc, npcs talk about these changes as if they're something happening over time; suddenly, but not all at once. The npc conversations I've read so far haven't mentioned the changes to the towns themselves yet, so, as far as the story is concerned, the town remodeling hasn't happened yet.

When did Cai come in contact with Soul Stream?

Where does it say that Tuatha de Danann are children of the Partholon?

• What I'm asking is how did Cessair's Heart get a copy of Dowra SEs. She's not a ninja unlike Shamala, then again we don't know much about her.
• Inconsistency error, then?
• Cai said something about using the Soul Stream to resurrect Leymore at the end of Generation 9. Caliburn then takes Cai to the Soul Stream at the end of Generation 10.
• Somewhere around Shakespeare's history, I don't exactly remember where.

Considering it's "ancient technology" it's possible that Heart may have been around during that time. It also explains why she said what she said to the milletian.

“	If you want something done, it needs to be done gradually	„
—Heart during their battle in Renes

Also Tarlach Black mask said she could use some sort of item...not sure what's that about.

Ehh, probably but still weird how Seumas says "Partholons" and not the Tuatha de Danann.

Really? Then how...maybe it's a magic thing I don't know. dammit.

I went through the commentary again and found out they added a few words to make it say from "Don't age" to "Don't age rapidly".

“	...Humans can't live forever...Humans can't help but destroy each other and bring themselves down...	„
—Morgant, Generation 2

That is your answer to Morgant's words to Ruairi.

I don't get it, I really don't...

He...basically convinced him that all humans turn against each other. also the fact that esras placed blame on the milletian for Rian's is what ultimately turn Ruairi towards dark knight.

Ruairi is so god damn gullible... Also did they mention why Esras attacked Ruairi in the first place?

Did Morgant say anything about his side with Morrighan? Because "she" ordered Morgant around.

Didn't Esras not ever actually attack Ruairi?

If I recall correctly, she turned Rian into a puppet ruler after Redire killed him, and told Ruairi that the Milletian attacked Rian. Ruairi probably still thinks Esras is his trusty advisor.

No word on what he thinks of Rian being stuck in a huge gold golem.

She did attack him, but not directly. Esras ordered Paladin Trainees to attack Ruairi and Triona in Math Dungeon.

She's a jerk of the highest degree? Or maybe she's afraid that the presence of Ruairi as a legitimate heir of the Lord of Emain Macha will turn the people against her coup? Or that Ruairi will try to kill her when he discovers what she did to Rian. She probably didn't anticipate the milletian being around to take the blame.

Esras played on rauiri's trust towards her.

*shrug* It really does sound odd for him to instantly believe her even after she tried to kill him...

considering she placed the blame on Rian's "death" on the milletian's hands...yeah I'd be pissed to if someone killed my twin/bother.

... Except Rian didn't "recognize" nor "care" about Ruairi's presence. Sure I'd be pissed if I lost a sibling but there's clearly more to that if a person I entrusted to my sibling tried to kill me and my brother went stoic on the whole damn thing.

Ruairi was never the one to think things through. And when your brother has just died, you'd be less worried on why he seemed to act a bit weird since the last time you saw him several years ago.

Damn, Ruairi is really really gullible and really really idiotic. He must have gotten it from his ancestors who also blamed Shakespeare for the plague.

Anyway, shall we get back to the other inconsistencies? This talk about dummy Ruairi is making a pyramid.

The only thing I can't figure is what thell did Ruairi see on his journey...

I can't help but shake this feeling off of me...

Strategy Guide
Morgant: ...Ruairi... Your father was murdered. It was Esras. The prime minister of Emain Macha, Esras the Druid. Esras currently holds all of Emain Macha in her hand. Rian is simply her puppet to control as she pleases.

He literally just said "DO NOT TRUST ESRAS! SHE IS THE BAD GUY!" (and to my surprise Morgant wasn't lying at all), and this point is justified when Esras attacks Ruairi. That final scene is just... what the hell...

Do note that he was unware of Esras true intentions. being stuck in a coma sucks, and since Ruairi left, he assumed Rian was in good hands. Ruairi still living in the past so to speak. He just can't grasp reality as it is now.

Wouldn't it make sense for his denial stage to end shortly after Esras tried to slit his throat and kill his beloved?

probably but hell should I know. (inb4lostintranslation)

No. He wanted to destroy the world and its..."irrational" ideas, the exact same plan he has in G16 that he actually carried out. Considering he was formally morgant by this time, you can tell he has the fomors on his side as of now.

... They just forget about Morgant being a slave to "Morrighan"? Tch.

...pretty much? No idea what happened to morgant before g16. I don't remember at least.

Is it okay to put the continuity errors on the page or?

Not directly. Could probably create a section right after the line about timeline/span, or link it to this thread.

I'm fine with either, really.