Talk:Battle Mandolin

Whats the actual benefit of a battle mando? i mean its just fashionable? or what does make it special?.

Most likely fashion and the upgrades, although Bass Drum seems to be the same.

Oh ok and i know that its out of this topic but has someone discovered the damage formula of instruments? and what stats count on discord damage or regular attack using instruments?

Seems to me str plays the role in damage increase. Dischord damage is based on your damage range shown in the character window, like other combat skills.

ummmm... well is a good way to start but some skills enhances dex also so it may be involved too... at leats for regular meele

Strength has affected their melee damage since the beginning of time. The only thing that actually changed was Knuckles which relied from Str to Will.

Other stats are just added for convenience and have no real affect on the skills at all. For example, Fireball adds Str and Thunder adds Will, but they in no way have any affects to their respective skills, and I also fail to see how they're related...

maybe just to have a reason to rank them wiout being directly a mage :x

oooook wth! the Battle Mandolin page says "Cannot receive Special Upgrade." BUT! on the Special Upgrade page the battle mandolin is linked in the "Available Equipment for Special Upgrades" section. make up you minds D:! RAWR

I'm still confused about that, too...

Who has a Battle Mandolin? Please clarify WITH pictures.

Perhaps it was only special upgraded in that one version of Korean Test Server? Because they did all but abandon the idea of a Music destiny. (Which did need a method of battle, hence the battle mandolin.)

Makes sense... If they were really considering a Music/Bard Destiny, then they were probably considering to have offensive music notes pop out of nowhere...

In any case, I still want evidence for this server.

We may have to add that section of the table again, as Korean Test Server just got the Bard Destiny again. But for now, lets leave it out until it reaches the Korean Official server, assuming any instruments received special upgrades.

I recently checked to see if the battle mandolin could be special upgraded in the most recent patch. It can't, at least not the ones from the rebirth event. Here's a link to my screenshot, sorry about catching other people in it :\ I tried to crop it and it kept breaking. http://i.imgur.com/eocqw.jpg

So, if someone else would like to test the old battle mandos to see if they can be special upped, we can figure out what's going on.

It's been fully upgraded + Gemmed? If that's the case... then the old ones should be able to be special upgraded..

Well it doesn't matter if it's been upgraded or not, if it can be special upped but isn't high enough it says "This still needs a gem upgrade" but the message I got was "no, you can't do that."

Huh. Well then. Further proof that the new music skill sucks! :D!

Apparently, previously existing instruments before (or just the battle mando?) were nerfed even lower than the new ones, or kept the same if they were already low.

The new ones are now stronger. I.e. new battle mando, 4-10, old ones 60 max -> 1-6...

soo.. Do we split the old ones into something like Battle Mandolin (Pre-Bard) or something?

Just put two different grades...like (Pre-G16S2) and (Bard Rebirth Event).

I will ask to see if my friends existing battle mando changed or stayed.

Wasn't something like this done with the Lightsabers Beam Swords?

Existing mandos changed. I checked my friend's. 1-6 dmg now.

And eh, forget it, I guess. I already changed them all.

Beam swords are different because they all coexist at the same time. The new instruments are meant to replace the old ones, but the old ones do still exist, but now unnaturally.

If you rebirth to bard you get a free battle mandolin

Ehh as in paid rebirth? or rebirth at age20? or doesn't matter as long as you become a bard?

I don't have any characters over 20, so I'm not sure about that. so far it's with paid rebirth. With the Bard Destiny event scrolling across the top of the screen, I'm guessing if you become a bard through rebirth, you get a battle mandolin.

I forgot I had a mule account i never use anymore. Yes you get a free battle mandolin regardless of rebirth type.

Oh dam...flood of battle mandos...FFFFFFFUUUUUu-- *rage rebirth for cute colors :>*

QQ for the ones who didn't sell theirs. :(

So, is the Battle Mandolin considered a Blunt Weapon for Mastery purposes?

And also, does it have the same upgrades as the normal mandolin?

Well, I know the upgrades aren't the same. Talked to Walter about upgrades and nothing showed up under the Battle Mandolin.

Any idea where it can be upgraded?

I would suggest trying Endelyon and Pierrick also. Even though Pierrick isn't listed in the Instrument Upgrades page, he does in fact upgrade instruments....

Granites should also upgrade instruments. Maybe Effie? Don't think so though.

I checked all the npcs that do upgrades. None of them seem to upgrade it. I don't think the upgrades are out yet as far as I know. Perhaps they will be out g15?

Checked fleta too?

Ya, I even went through all the npcs even if they didn't do upgrades.

Hmm, I have a theory that we don't have the same battle mandolins as korea got. So, ours might be different and wont get upgrades to get the special upgrade. Should we remove special upgradable for now?