Talk:Demonic Illusion Control Bar

If you craft this instead of getting it from a Saga box, can you get better stats, or are all Demonic Illusion Control Bars the same?

Crafting can give you better stats.

That sure is weird considering handicraft doesn't give any bonuses to any of the other crafted items it makes, and I'm told by many that it doesn't. If anything though, synthesis should be your go to for creating better control bars anyway.

Oops. It's Carpentry talent, not Carpentry skill. My mistake.

Synthesis? Can you synthesize Demonic Control Bars? They're the only ones worth it to me since they're they only special upgradable ones.

From what I've experience, anything can be made in synthesis, but only if you use 3-4 of the same item. In this case, it would be 3-4 demonic control bars, which are like 25k on Tarlach. It isn't guaranteed that you'll get bars the first time either. You might have to try a couple times. I haven't made controls bars personally, but if synthesis can get me a +3 dur dyeable rainbow sheep robe, bonanza candy, star candy mace, and lollipop swords, then I don't see why it wouldn't work on demon control bars.

I'm actually pretty sure that there's a fixed list of items from Synthesis that's been unchanged since its come out. To test that theory, you can always try throwing in 3 regular control bars a few times and see if any control bars come back out. I've also never heard of any demonic weapons coming out from synthesis, but maybe people just haven't been trying hard enough, lol.

It's more of a insert 3 of the same thing, get the same thing back with synthesis stats rolled on it. I have gotten that rainbow sheep robe I said above, and that's a very new item.

EDIT: I spent money on this. I hope you are happy. http://i.imgur.com/jjb9WkJ.jpg Made 2 of them. Neither had synthesis rolled stats though. I made unrepairable 1 dur items from events have 3 dur, but when you change channel the max dur goes back to 1 and the min dur stays 3.

Wow that's interesting and completely unexpected from my point of view. I wonder if anyone is crazy enough to try to throw in 3 demonic weapons though, lol.

EDIT: Wait demonic bars are 25k on Tarlach? What in the hell has happened in the time I've been gone?

Demonic Bars and Demonic Lances poop out from Saga ep 7 and 10, so probably why.

Even in Alexina it's dirt cheap.

Well, I can't get any stat changes on the basic control bars so far, so they probably can't get a bonus unless I'm just unlucky. I have an X grade jeweled control bar though, so who knows?

Handicraft shouldn't affect stats. It'll spit a basic stated bar. I should know, I actually tried...rip demonic mats.

As far as stat changes, I think it's possible, but I've only noticed Durability changes. Maybe one day event gachas will give X-grade demonics, but until then you'd have to settle for base stats or synthesized ones if you manage to get it going.