Talk:Triona

Race

Since Neamhain is a Goddess and that is her mom, does that make her a Goddess?-- կրակ (խոսել | օգնություն)

If Neamhain is Triona's mother then it makes her half-human and half-god. In many legends and fantasy stories, the offspring between a human and a race (considered by the humans) to be of a higher order (e.g., gods) are usually accepted as human, as long as the offspring looks human (or can disguise any physical differences). They are usually considered very gifted humans (you know, like spiderman is still considered human even though he has those super powers). The reverse usually doesn't hold true, that is, the offspring between a human and a race (considered by the humans) to be of a lower order usually is not considered human. If they look human and no one knows of their bloodline then they are accepted into human society. However, they are usually portrayed as living in fear (and shame) because of their bloodline, which if found out will at the least have them banished, if not murdered. Sadly, as a race humanity isn't very nice, although some individuals are. So, I would leave Triona as Human because her father Morgant is Human and she looks like a perfectly ordinary young human girl. Note that this is my opinion and I have no way of knowing what race Nexon actually intended her to belong to. --ZRoc (Talk) 08:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Technically, as far as I can tell, she's actually two souls within the one body. Her "god" half, is Macha Reborn, her "human" half being, well, herself. So she's human, in short.Novaix 05:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Clothing

I'm pretty sure she's wearing a Trudy's Rain Robe, but has some sort of hat that gives her the pendant. All visible accessories are hats! (Oh, minor edit, given the scratches and stuff, it may be a Vintage version, should one exist.)Novaix 05:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

If her daddy is "Debatably Human", wouldn't it pass on to his daughter?

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Considering she died...yeah

What does dying have to do with this o-o

Since she's dead, she can't be a milletian, which her father is.

Shakespeare is proven to not be a Milletian in G16 where he discludes himself. Anything that says Lugh is a god or Milletian is purely speculative/in vague context, however, he has both claimed to be and not be human.

Shakespeare?

I though Shakes seperated himself from Milletians...even though he's clearly a Milletian as seen in g15 I believe o-o

Oops, meant to say Lugh. Shakespeare is a Milletian, though.

Milletians have died, at least in a not-ever-happening future.

That's because the soul stream was closed off (or something like that).

Just noticed something...

“	Milletians have died, at least in a not-ever-happening future.	„

Um yeaaah, she died in the past, so that future doesn't have anything to do with it o -o(justsaying)

Shakespeare "died" when he was stabbed by lugh, but he came back o -o;;

He magically poofed to the soul stream after getting stabbed, or was that in response to infodude's comment? o3o;

Just saying Milletians can die, but they just end up in the soul stream o-o

Shakey also got whacked by an Ogre and magically poofed to the Soul Stream...
Admiral Owen also says "we'd be back on the streets in a matter of days" so there'd be no point to killing us.

...Plot hole: What was the point of Cichol trying to kill/abandon us in G10 if we'd just poof back to the Soul Stream?

She died...? Then again, she was human, not a Milletian.

Another thing's bothering me...According to Cichol, she died "Long ago"

what do you think he meant by that...?

There was another timing consistency, too...Owen commented that Lugh's deeds were from hundreds of years ago, though Tarlach only mentions it as "a few years a go" (in his book about Milletians, I think).

Then there's the problem of both Triona and Bella being Macha...Bella existed before Triona, but also existed after Triona dies in G3...that was a killer plot twist, but it's still kinda poorly narrated...

I got a feeling a Time Paradox is involved...and a season/sidequest/Mainstream quest chain will appear to explain a lot of things...

Wait wait, what happened?

I only heard from other sources that Triona died and Bella played mind tricks on Lugh to make him think she's Triona.

The problem is the Time consistency like Akira said :c

But you are correct that she was indeed brainwashed Lugh into thinking that. As far as Triona dying, the time frame of when she died is rather...puzzling.

Remind me again what's a time paradox...

...It's when you do something...but it wasn't suppose to happen, and it messes up the time line...

You know what, scratch what I said about the Time Paradox...though technically...Bella may have done something that cause all of this to Happen...Her Journal is...quite conspicuous as it is extremely old. Not to mention it cuts off at the best part :l

What does Bella's journal say?

In short, Tir Na Nog died because of Morrighan...(illegible)...She watches shakespeare under Morrighan's orders...(illegible)...Morrighan wants Tir Na Nog to be saved...something about Milletians ignoring Cichol's warnings and Cichol must (cut off right there)

I really wanted to know what Cichol was gonna do D:

Oh ya, she might have fallen in love with Shakespeare, which may have cause the entire mess to happen o-o

I think Bella did have feelings, since she showed signs of remorse and regret.

Anyway, Triona dying somewhere in between the 13 Gens is a serious plot hole...

...... I believe this is problem of..

• Director's story error.
• Invoving Shakespeare in the story line (G13~G16)
• G3 storyline still have some unexplained plots. There is a rumor... In Korea, the G3 storyline was updated with the Mabinogi's 1st Anniversary. But they suppose to scheduled with different date. Somehow, G3 storyline was quickly created than other privious generations.

• G16 storyline has a many bugs or errors in both story line and the game play.

Conclusion: DevCAT made a old mainstream characters into the minor characters.

Ok... I know it's been 3 month that I wrote this reply.

There's been a rumor that Triona's death is caused by the process of Lia Fail. We know that Ruairi destroyed Lia Fail. But it was too much for Triona's body to handle this process. That might explains why she did not say anything at the end of G3, but leave with her father.

Keyword, rumor. Is there any actual evidence to this hypothesis?

I am not sure if I can write this, because it could be spoiler.

In the new story "Drama", Triona was mentioned few times.

and also Lia Fail reappears in there. I cannot say more because devCAT made them as a minor NPCS now. unless if you guys do not care if this is a spoiler.

It is confirmed that:

• Morgant is Triona's Father.
• Neamhain is Elatha's Mother.

It is unconfirmed that:

• Morgant is Elatha's Father.
• Elatha is Triona's Brother./Triona is Elatha's Sister.
• Neamhain is Triona's Mother.

It is entirely possible that Neamhain is Elatha's Mother and not Triona's Mother. And that Triona and Elatha are half-siblings. I think this page jumps to conclusions, and so does the other three. It should also be noted that Neamhain and Morgant were never confirmed to be married, they might have created a child without being married.

there is no solid proof that morgant is elatha's father either o.o

"birth contract" might have caused morgant to hold on baby elatha since black wizard said that they did experiments with human since beginning.

so another theory can be that black wizard successfully changed half-god into incubus and morgant was bringing him to somewhere.

Either way, I think we shouldn't skip to conclusions. We should think more about this before writing it down on those pages, it might mislead people.

plus, neamhain was forgotten during "first" Moitura War.

spoiler

lugh gained fame at "second" moitura war. and Lugh hates gods and want paradise for both humans and fomors. unless lugh is somekind of player, capable of marrying goddess before he is even famous, it doesnt make sense.

We know what we know. We don't need to state more than that. Speculation can be kept to talk pages and forums.