Template include limit

So it appears the hero talent boxes aren't showing up due to template inclusion limits. What can we do about this?

1. Shorten/simplify pages that are being included.
2. Raise the inclusion limit.

Shortening/simplifying the page is probably the most reasonable choice, since it makes no sense to have the page be > 2 MB.

Yes, but how should they be shortened? What information is going to be cut out?

If done effectively, no information needs to be cut. Just use less junk code. Look at individual subpages and see which are using up the most space. Shorten those. Etc. Cmon, you can do this, Xcelled.

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I could do it, yes. But I'm consulting with other editors instead of making a large unilateral change. Maybe someone wants to use this opportunity to reformat the tables? I don't know, but I value other's input.

Is it really necessary for all the talent tables to show up on that one page? Why not just split this page into multiple subpages?

I also think the best solution is to just make the Talent page link to separate pages for each talent. Generalized information about talents can stay on the Talent page while the massive tables can be on the individual pages. This is also something Kadalyn suggested. A benefit of this change (or at least I think it's a benefit) is that the tabbed tables are no longer required. Tabs hide information to save room, but we can use as much room as we want on the new pages without making it look as cluttered as if all the tables were shown on the current Talent page.

I'm going to agree with the above, simply because it's like the easiest and simplest route.

We don't need no fire.

That seems fine, but maybe we can keep all the hero talents on one page still?

Hero talents can stay on their own area. Milletian talents can stay on their own area. Just have this page redirect to them.

I'm just going to nod "yes" and pretend I understand what's going on. As far as Hero tables...ugh. that place is a mess as it is, and outdated since free creation disabled hero talents.

Main Page > Small detailed page > insert table on said small page

If anyone wanted to know the number of templates that are on this page...it's around 90.

And that number doesn't include the templates found inside those templates...total? I'd around 150~