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I was wondering why we don't list the proper pronunciation of towns, etc. Most wikis do. Considering most of the names are foreign words I feel like this is important. Thoughts? Maybe we could start a project.

WildTheWerecat (talk)22:58, 26 September 2014

Someone already compiled a pronunciation list. I wouldn't mind putting them on their respective pages.

Infodude575 (talk)23:28, 26 September 2014

It's not really that important in the scope of this wiki. The primary means of communication for Mabi is through text so while making sure spelling and terms are accurate is important, pronunciation is not.

Mystickskye (talk)16:07, 27 September 2014

That's true, but many guilds use TeamSpeak or Skype, plus when there's meet ups or cons. And after reading that page I know that I say pretty much everything inccorrectly. I want to do my best to be respectful to the culture that Mabi is based on, as well as the creators, and butchering all the names just seems offensive.

WildTheWerecat (talk)16:21, 27 September 2014

From a player's perspective, I often wonder whether I'm pronouncing any of the terminology correctly. I think this'd be nice to incorporate on the the respective pages, not only for player/guild chat reasons, but for basic knowledge. and for those who record Let's Plays. We're a wiki, and this isn't trivia (no, no one hinted that it was.), it's solid information. ESPECIALLY since this is the English Wiki, and the majority of English-Speaking countries rarely have any education in Welsh/Irish/Gaelic pronunciation. I think it'd be nice, and I'd definitely be willing to pitch in in incorporating it, if the wiki moves to.

Pop Runner (talk)16:30, 27 September 2014

The scope of the wiki is to aid in playing the game. If someone could provide a solid explanation as to how the pronunciation aids in the playing of Mabi then sure. That or show a very solid desire from the fanbase to incorporate it into the pages rather than linking to the pronunciation guide.

Mystickskye (talk)00:11, 28 September 2014

Not that I care about the pronunciation issue at all, but the purpose of the wiki is to provide relative information. The usage of the information is up to the reader, e.g. readers can utilize to information to aid them in the game; not the other way around. As a matter of fact, there is plenty of content on this site that does not aid in any sort of manner, whatsoever.

iDSd02:00, 28 September 2014

I agree with iDSd. And honestly, what harm would it do to enchance the pages? I can't see why adding a few characters to a page would be a bad thing.

Edit: It wouldn't even have to be a sentence. For example, Wikipedia does it like this.

The Mabinogion (Welsh pronunciation: [mabɪˈnɔɡjɔn]) is the title given to a collection of eleven prose stories collated from medieval Welsh manuscripts.

WildTheWerecat (talk)03:46, 28 September 2014

"but the purpose of the wiki is to provide information" Not entirely true. Otherwise we could include any information when that's clearly not what we do. Objectively the purpose of the information is to serve those who seek the help on game content. And yes this isn't completely true for all content but the aim and intent is to lean away from that sort of content. This is why (loose) standards were set. My view is that pronunciation of various terms in game isn't that dissimilar from trivia.

The argument here is chiefly that it won't really be an enhancement. From a quality perspective it seems difficult to agree to a change that provides no palpable benefit, especially when the data already exists on a page for those eager to seek it out.

Mystickskye (talk)10:13, 28 September 2014

I could not find that page when I looked for it.

Even if it is trivia, we put trivia on the wiki to enrich it. I don't see the issue with just a few characters on NPC's pages, which most people read for the backstory anyhow.

WildTheWerecat (talk)10:34, 28 September 2014

This can be fixed by making the page more prominent. And trivia is typically avoided now. So no we don't really put trivia on the wiki to "enrich it".

Mystickskye (talk)12:48, 28 September 2014

If 'enriching' is making it unnecessarily long, I don't want it. Things like this and this are what made trivia viewed negatively among the wiki editors.

I also don't see much positives adding pronunciations, but I also see no negatives. However, it doesn't see that useful to actually bother with.

Nise Panda (talk)12:57, 28 September 2014

I agree with Nise here.

Manakitty (talk)06:29, 29 September 2014

To clarify, I don't think it's a particularly bad idea, it's more that I don't think it's a particularly good/useful idea.

Mystickskye (talk)08:17, 29 September 2014

Most game wikis that I know of don't include pronunciation keys. Personally, while I've been curious to know correct pronunciation myself at times, I'm not curious enough to actually read a pronunciation guide on it ("mabɪˈnɔɡjɔn" is incredibly unhelpful to my eyes). Wikipedia's solution is not very accessible. I wouldn't object to the idea if it were more accessible and had dedicated maintainers. It doesn't seem to be in high demand, so you can't really expect the general editing population to take it on.

Saiyr (talk)15:07, 29 September 2014