Talk:Awakening of Light

best. skill. ever. :o! --ACE1337 02:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, but the details written here are a little sketchy. --Daemonis, 4 June 2009

Does anyone know how much skill experience is taken away per use? Is it the same always? Or does the amount taken increase with the skill rank?
- regardness rank, cost 6.00 skill exp.--Juff 09:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC) -- Juff 09:11, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

It is not Transformation skill...;;

Awakening of Light is 'Demigod(반신화, 半神化)' Skill. Not Transformation skill. --ForestKuret 13:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

It's still a transformation. It changes your stats and allows you to use different skills, just like the other 4. --GN54 08:45, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

No change in stats. HP/MP/SP recovery are not stats exactly. --ForestKuret 08:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

You transform into a Demigod, correct? So it's a transformation skill to me, and probably many others who see it that way too. Also if it added any more stats, you'd be a full blown god stacking it with the other transformations.--Tricky ^B _Bomb (Talk) 11:40, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Even though you transform into a demigod, the skill itself is not classified in that way. If it was a transformation skill, it would be in the transformation panel, and it isnt. --Rais 11:49, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Demigod does not fall into the transformation tab. Therefore it should be in it's own category completely. --Aubog007 07:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Demigod is just a secondary transformation skill. It should be listed as a transformation, despite having its own tab. If you -really- want to get technical... Mabinogi NA on this page here says on the Awakening of Light skills... it "transforms" your character. Besides, if it isn't a transformation, what will you name it? And hopefully it isn't an answer like "just don't list it as a transformation". If you got a solution, say it. =p --Miyuna 13:11, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

List it as Demigod. In the skill description it doesn't ever say transform into demigod. It says gain the power of the gods. Since we should be technical it would be best to name it a Demigod skill and make it it's own category. It's like grouping alchemy with magic, sure they act the same, but they are different, and in a different tab.--Rais 17:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

The transformation for elves and giants is called "Beast Mode" and the tab is named as such. It isn't labeled "transformation" so by your logic falcon and savage beast aren't transformations either.--Kingman186 00:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Arat Berry

I've seen a few references to this 'arat berry' around, but there's no page about it.

Arat Berry --Rainney 20:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Ranking Up

Why rank the skill up if ranking it means (desipite having a stockpile of uses reserved) you gain less transformations per levels? Does it have any notale benefits? (I'm thinking probably increased time? Good countermeasure...)Novaix 23:11, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Most likely the case, along with, possibly, increased recovery? Can someone from KR confirm? --Sephy 23:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

It already has been confirmed: increased timeNovaix 00:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't have the exact rates, but ranking it also appears to increase the chance that it ignores the enemies attacks. But thats just speculation on my part. Tellos 08:39, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Getting better stats, you're not going to use Demi anyway unless you're fighting a really tough enemy like a Generation boss--Kingman186 00:34, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Morigan skills

I just saw a video of someone doing g11 or 12 final, and they had all 6 demigod skills in the skill window, so learning Morigan skills definately doesn't make you loose the first 2 skills, Don't know if you can use both sets during the same trans though.--Sozen Cratos Focker 21:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

You don't lose the skills, unlike Paladin and Dark Knight(which is good), you do not lose the other powers, but you can only limit yourself to one side. If you use a power from Morrighan, you cannot use Spear of Light or Fury of Light and vice versa.--Bryanneo 12:46, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

So, basically, you choose which set of skills to use every transformation.Novaix 04:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

You just switch off skills. For example, you can choose to use Morrighan skills, then another time, you can switch it to using Neamhain skill. The difference is that once you choose a skillset, you have to use it during the -whole time- of the transformation. So you can't trans, use morrighan, then switch to Neamhain during the middle of transformation. --Miyuna 08:12, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

That's what I said.Novaix 12:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

No, that's what I said. I have no idea why you all seem to be under the impression that I asked a question. I just said that you keep the skills because several wiki pages used to say that you loose those 2 skills when you get the Morighan skills. -Sozen Cratos Focker 04:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd continue this, but this is just maddening the unhelpful at any further point. We all understand each other, or at least as much that matters.Novaix 07:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I just watched some videos but apparently, there must be something to the skill. I notice that the person activated Fury of Light but he was unable to use Wings of Rage during the Fury of Light Animation. But when it was gone, he used Wings of Eclipse but when can't seem to use Spear of Light. So does this mean that when you use a Demigod skill, you can't use the other one at the same time or each time you transform, it's random which set you can use? --Miyuna 02:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Has anyone seen rage being used while eclipse wasn't active? --Sozen Cratos Focker 03:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

There's a video on it (if I can just refind the link!) of someone who activates eclipse then uses rage. However the same person, when he tries to "click" on the spear of light icon, he got a message pop up that I couldn't read. Then when it wore off he did fury of light then tried to use eclipse and he got a weird message when he click on the eclipse icon. I'll try and find the video. --Miyuna 12:33, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Eclipse and then fury afterward but still during the same transformation, right? --Sozen Cratos Focker 19:02, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Yea, that's the odd part. He had his skill menu open. When he used Fury of Light, Wings of Eclipse and Wings of Rage dimmed out. When it was over it relit. --Miyuna 19:25, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

In Falias there is an NPC that allows you to change sides. The item to get to Falias though is pretty expensive... Once you CHOOSE a side you have to go back to Falias to change sides. The process is painless except for what i noted before. --Aubog007 07:10, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Is that so? Then was the video I saw from the test server? --Miyuna 13:05, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I've used them on KR so allow me to clarify. On KR TEST SERVER ONLY when G12s1 was being tested, if you used a morrighan skill it would block out Neamhain's skill's and vice versa. However upon being moved to main, you must chose which skill you want to use and you will be stuck with that set untill you chose to change it back. Shadow Spirit is available regardless. Tellos 20:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Shadow Spirit

Okay so, from discussion about Morrighan skills:

-Upon transforming, you activate one of the skills of the Goddess you wish to side with for the duration

-After the skill us used, the skills of the other Goddess dim out. (I'ma ignore the last little bit about how it re-lit for some odd reason)

What I want to know is where does Shadow Spirit fit into all this? Is ShadOS part of Neamhain's arsenal? Morrighan's? or is it some innate skill a Demigod retains under any situation? --Junjun 21:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Shadow Spirit can be used regardless of which pair of skills you lock yourself into. IHarryl 12:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Shadow Spirit is Cichol's skill. You get it at g11. But since you don't have power of Cichol fully, you can use it in both demi god.Fallenone

Contradictions

There is a contradiction on pages http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Wings of Rage and the main page about which goddess gives you what power. I am not sure if some one did this on purpose to mess somebody up but the pages that are associated the power are not agreeing with which goddess you acquire the power from. Could someone double check the powers with their respective goddess. This is rather important since the Gen is not to far away.--Falmosta 06:50, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

The page on Awakening of Light says if you choose Neamhain you CAN'T use Wings of Rage or Wings of Eclipse. Perhaps you saw "can't" as "can"? ^^; --Miyuna 13:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

exerience and skill use

In the skill window, it says "acquire 100 experience from rebirthing or leveling" and shows a very large number x/12000 for rank F. Is the 6 skill exp used when transforming using this scale or is it 6% of the total required experience for that rank? And this scale does not correspond to the chart on the main page where it would take 38 levels to get to rank E. *scratches head* --Dias 17:27, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Its 6.00 training experience, not percent. As for the large number, I believe that maybe the number of levels needed for rank 1. Just a guess though, as its a pretty big number and contradicts the wiki. --Zaros 03:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

It's like Paladin's Odd number for prof. It's some wacky formula to ensure you reach 100 prof at a certain amount of levels... Weird Mabinogi math.--Aubog007 06:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Ignore the statement "earn 100 exp for rebirthing or leveling". That statement is completely false, unless you are Rank 1 of the skill. The table on the main article is correct. At Rank F, you will earn 2.64 points (or 264 exp) towards the skill every level. At Rank 1, you will earn 1 point (or 100 exp) per level.
As for the x/##### exp meter, 2.46/120.00 = 246/12000. At Rank E, you gain 2.46 points (or 246 exp) per level. You can advance the rank (needless to say) at 100.00 points (or 10,000 exp).
It is better to perfect train the skill, as any amount of points (or exp) gained past 100 points (or 10,000 exp) carries over into the next rank. 120 points at Rank E, carry 20 over into Rank D, and you have 20 points which took less levels to gain at Rank E than it does to gain 20 points at Rank D. Perfect training is a MUST if you want to make things ever so slightly easier.
As a visual aid, take a look at the following image. The number on the left, in the tiny box, is the 6.00 points you use when you use the skill.
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8389/mabinogi20100721001.jpg
Using the skill drains 6.00 points (or 600 exp) from your accumulated total. --Rusty 19:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

My extra exp from perfect train has always been scalled down accordingly. For example, when I ranked Fury of light from 8 to 7 with 19.28 exp in it I got 18.41 + 10.00 into rank 7. Perfect training the skill is no different from ranking it and training it. Tellos 20:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

what the heck?

hey, I finished G11 (yay, off-topic) and gained 4 levels and had enough points for ranking Awakening of Light from F to E right? No problem, so I ranked it. Then I notice it was already ready to rank from E to D, which was pretty strange *although the Advance button was greyed out momentarily* So I activated Demigod (that what we call it?) and then the button lit back up, so I ranked it up from E to D... I don't know whats up, but thats kind of wierd :| Anyone notice anything like it? --Marthian 04:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

You may have already had enough points to rank it- it's possible to store up enough EXP for the skill to rank it twice in a row. IHarryl 06:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I didn't :|--Marthian 18:18, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

This has happened to me too, exactly as described here. I ranked the skill, and the next rank became instantly full-trained yet advance was grayed out. I used Demigod and then advanced it yet another rank. -- Tylian (TALK · CONTRIB) 17:37, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I used Demi in a dungeon since the G12 Update, and I noticed that it doesn't reveal the map of a dungeon anymore, anyone else notice this?--TwiliTerror 06:53, 8 November 2010 (PST)