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Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Table1919:39, 3 September 2012
Ixion1503:21, 7 April 2012
Was wondering.001:31, 27 January 2012
Fishing Stars and Sizes016:38, 14 October 2011
Taming Journal007:10, 29 July 2011
Description222:58, 22 July 2011
Taming018:25, 21 July 2011

I believe this page needs tables for the individual sections. For example, the Taming Animals journal could have a table with the icon, journal name, and animals that can be tamed for that acheviment. Cooking could have the icon, food name, and where the food could be purchased (or the recipe?). Fishing could have the icon, fish name, and locations where it is fished. Thoughts? I am willing to do the tables myself.

Hershey68721:35, 24 July 2011

Taming should also have the monster description. Cooking and Fishing descriptions aren't as important since they are the same as the item's description, but I agree.

Pyro - (Talk)21:49, 24 July 2011
 

I realize that a huge table like the one I would need to make would probably be very lengthy, so perhaps we could even devide the Collection Journals into seperate pages, and just keep this page with the main info for all of them on it.

Hershey68703:05, 25 July 2011
 

Actually, how about making it all one page, but putting hide/show button on each of the three journal tables and making hide default?

Pyro - (Talk)03:48, 25 July 2011
 

Even so, they would still be huge. Like the spirit feeding pages before they were cleaned up.

I'm just waiting for the go-ahead of a higher-up before I do it.

Hershey68719:59, 25 July 2011
 

In my opinion, separate pages and no hidden text.

Angevon (Talk)20:24, 25 July 2011
 

We could do it like spirit feeding pages, since Hershey mentioned it and the idea popped in my mind.

 

I'm not all too sure how to do it like the spirit pages, and since I don't want to screw everything up.. I'll start on the charts like Angevon said.

Hershey68702:32, 26 July 2011
 

I could've done the charts... Why're we starting creation before a consensus has been reached? e-e

 

Sorry. I have the Fishing one pretty much done its here. The Taming one is halfway done, and yes I'm aware of all the broken links. It's here.

Hershey68711:43, 26 July 2011
 

I think it would be much easier to right a short list of each monsters that do apply rather than saying "includes this, does not include this."

Pyro - (Talk)12:50, 26 July 2011
 

I had started out doing like..

Raccoon Young Raccoon Young Gray Raccon

Then I realized how huge that would be. So I figured I would try and specify a group of monsters that the entry applied too, and people can see their individual monster pages for more information. I'll put a note at the top of the chart before the page is finished.

Hershey68719:54, 26 July 2011
 

But your way, people will still ask "Does this count? What about this?" Honestly, it's worth the extra effort. May I have permission to work on this?

Pyro - (Talk)21:00, 26 July 2011
 

The table will have 103 entries when finished. If you attempted to list every single monster for each entry, that would be a gigantic mess. I believe breaking it down into monster 'families' (ie: the way they're already divided onto monster pages) is the best way to keep things small and still understandable. I can put a note if theres something to specific to clarify about a monster, and I'm sure more will be added to the table later.

Hershey68721:09, 26 July 2011
 

You did not address what I just said... I told you, there should be some open-close, hide-show part of the box. Room should not be an issue...

Pyro - (Talk)21:25, 26 July 2011
 

Could you give me a small example of what you're talking about? On your user page or something.

Hershey68722:56, 26 July 2011
 
Edited by 2 users.
Last edit: 19:39, 3 September 2012

Actually, I just came up with something better.

Animal What Applies Description Notes
Raccoon Journal.png
Animal Name
  • Animal 1
  • Animal 3
  • Animal 2
  • Animal 4
  • Description go here.

    • Notes go here.


    Bolded words indicates names. We merge the name and icon slots. The Name should be the general name and should lead to the page on that type of enemy. Then we add a new slot labeled "What Applies" or "Applies Too". Here we list each of the animals and list them on the right and left side, side by side. In that example specifically it may appear to be given too much room, but a majority of the monster's have long names. Description remains unchanged excluding width. And the notes section should be used for other things such as "Mimics must be woken before they can be tamed."

    Widths:
    Animal: 50
    What Applies: 225
    Description: 200
    Notes: 150

    If you have any productive criticism or suggestions, please let me know.

    Pyro - (Talk)00:11, 27 July 2011
     

    I do like that actually. It was hard for me to picture what you ment before. By 'listing each of the animals' do you mean specifically like..

    • Young Brown Fox
    • Brown Fox
    • Young Red Fox
    • Red Fox
    • Etc Etc

    Or just..

    • Fox
    Hershey68701:30, 27 July 2011
     

    After working on the page for an hour and having it almost intirely refortmated.. My browser decided to crash. I'm extremely frustrated now.

    You can work on the page if you'd like Pyro, help is appreciated. Also, I'm not intirely certain how to divide the 'Applies Too' section into left and right, so I could use help with that.

    Since it's nearly 6 in the morning here, I think I'll go to bed now, haha.

    Hershey68702:34, 27 July 2011
     

    Okay, I know how frustrating those kind of things can be. I meant specific monsters for the Applies Too, and linked too. As for how to move it left and right, just look at the coding after I update it. For monsters that need testing, I'll put (?) next to the name.

    Pyro - (Talk)02:53, 27 July 2011
     

    I tamed a Brown Ixion, but I did not get a new achievement for it. Can somebody who doesn't have most or all of their journal completed see if it counts towards anything? Perhaps a horse? If not, we should state this on the page.

    Pyro - (Talk)22:24, 24 July 2011

    I have most of my journal complete, however yes, the Ixion does count as a horse, you can tell because when you go to look at your horse entry appearance, it shows the Ixion.

    Marith00:12, 15 September 2011
     

    Ah, that explains it. And it only shows that if Ixion is the horse with the most stars you've tamed.

    Pyro - (Talk)00:22, 15 September 2011
     

    If it's not shown as the horse with the most stars for you, might I ask what the 5-star was? Because I've been searching for awhile.

    Marith17:56, 15 September 2011
     

    I don't know, sorry. =X

    Pyro - (Talk)18:42, 15 September 2011
     

    5 Star Ghost, Cow, Grumbill and Horse come from SMs.

    Unfortunately they come up as 1* currently and has not been fixed yet.

    To the best of my knowledge, Players on KR don't even care about the taming cane, Hence no effort has been made to fix it yet?

    Aubog00720:40, 15 September 2011
     

    That's kind of lame :\

    Marith14:02, 16 September 2011
     

    But remember, SM/TM difficulty doesn't affect stars. An elite Orange Grumbil is still worth less stars than a basic Pink Grumbil.

    Pyro - (Talk)15:58, 16 September 2011
     

    Same stars actually, all 3 grumbills are 1-starred

    Marith18:21, 16 September 2011
     

    Oh, well that's just lame. (And they come out all misshapen in the preview in the Collection Journal.) Anyways, you got the point. =P

    Pyro - (Talk)18:43, 16 September 2011
     

    Yup. My entire journal is basically done with just those 4 exceptions.

    Aubog00720:25, 16 September 2011
     

    The field boss Gnu's in Iria count as 5* Cows, I think I had tamed a giant short horned Gnu to get mine

    Evee06:56, 27 February 2012
     

    Thought you can't tame those since they count as field bosses.

    Aubog00720:39, 27 February 2012
     

    I thought that at first too, However, when I summoned one with a monster urn, I tried and it worked. Maybe it's just the ones from the urn that work? If I see a field boss spawn, I could try it

    Evee04:32, 29 February 2012
     

    That would be a wonderful test, also slightly rage inducing if it's true...

    Aubog00718:08, 29 February 2012
     

    I have tested and confirmed. The field boss Giant Short Horned Gnus in Iria are NOT tamable, However, the ones that were spawned from monster urns ARE, and they do count as a 5* tame

    Evee03:21, 7 April 2012
     

    Was wondering.

    Has anyone on the wiki acquired the max stats for any of the 'weapons' from these quests?

    The Paladin Slayer01:21, 27 January 2012

    Fishing Stars and Sizes

    Edited by another user.
    Last edit: 16:38, 14 October 2011

    Format: Fish Name / 1 Star Size / 2 Star Size / 3 Star Size / 4 Star Size / 5 Star Size (in CM)

    • ??? means range range in between the previous level and next level may fall in here

    Brifne Carp / 10 / 104 - 131 / 134 - 144 / 149 - 150
    Golden Scale Fish / 30 - 115 / 121 - 143 / 145 - 154 / 155 - 157 / 159 - 160
    Rainbow Trout / 56 - 143 / 160 - 179 / 187 - 191 / 198 / 200
    Abb Neagh Carp / 44 - 75 / 77 - 89 / 92 - 98 / 98 / 100
    Catfish / 60 - 61 - 79 / 85 - 93 / 95 / ??? / 100
    Blowfish / 20 - 42 / 49 - 55 / 56 / ??? / 60
    Black Sea Bream / 20 - 50 / 54 - 62.99 / 64 - 67 / 68 - 69 / 70
    Red Sea Bream / 20 - 60 / 76 - 91 / 93 - 97 / 98 / 100
    Mako Shark / 100 - 227 / 240 - 265 / 280 / ??? / 300
    Silk Striped Marlin / 164 / 256 - 278 / 280 / ??? / 300
    Anglerfish / 30 - 41 / 43 - 47 / 48 / 49/ 50
    Flying Fish / 10 - 21 / 23 - 27 / 28 - 29 / ??? / 30
    Jellyfish / 50 - 61 / 63 - 67 / 68 / 69 / 70
    King Crab / 90 - 101 / 103 - 107 / 108 / 109 / 110
    Marine Pearl / 5 - 9 / 12 / ??? / ??? / 20
    Striped Marlin / 30 - 115 / 121 - 144 / 145 - 152 / 155 - 157 / 159 - 160
    Sun Fish / 79 - 212 / 224 - 269/ ??? / ??? / 300
    Ray / 166 / 177 - 179.99 / 182 / ??? / 200
    Sturgeon / 171 - 203 / 218 - 260 / ??? / ??? / 300
    Lamprey / 30 - 48 / 53 - 56 / 57 - 58 / 59 / 60

    Credit to Soluna of Ruairi of Mabidata

    Health16:00, 14 October 2011

    Taming Journal

    Unfortunatly, the taming journal is more complicated that it lets on. Once you have tamed one of each of the 103 type, it changes, showing a star rating for each monster a 1 star being the weakest version, and 5 star being the strongest. and from the tests that I have done so far, any shadow mission creatures you tame count for the lowest version of them. The difficulty of the mission does not appear to make any difference in it. I need to re-test monsters with titles again, but I am pretty sure they do not make a difference either

    The title, the conqueror of the wild is obtained from collecting 90 5 star monster tame entries.

    Evee07:10, 29 July 2011

    Description

    Apparently, there is a description of the Fish/Food/Monster. Should we input that?

    Infodude57522:36, 22 July 2011

    The food and fish are the exact description from the actual items. I don't know what to do about the monster part, though.

     

    We could just quote it on the monster's page, but I'm not the expert here.

    Infodude57522:58, 22 July 2011
     

    Would Control of Darkness also count or is it just Taming Wild Animals?

    Infodude57518:25, 21 July 2011