Talk:Generation 15: The First Contract

Would anyone like to spoil what happens in Generation 15?

Also, the Third Guardian of Avon is present, correct?

No, Bran returns.

WHAT?!

B-but... He's supposed to be dead! D:

Grim's not dead either. But as far as I know, we do not fight him.

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• Shylock misses his family.
• Shakespeare makes contract with Shylock.
• Shylock fails to get Antonio.
• Shakespeare tries to take over Shylock's body.
• Morrighan appears with 2 guardian and take Shakespeare away.
• Milletian reads the work of Shakespeare that he dropped when he was taken away.
• The book reads.... DOOM OF MILLETIAN!!!!!

Just a prophecy, by the way.

Jeez, Milletian massacre? That's so low, Morrighan...

But I recall Cichol returns in G15? What happened to our great Fomor God?

I don't know for sure, but that may have been a flashback considering G15 is about the past. But we definitely know he is alive since he was in Falias in G12.

Well according to the 'spoiler' on Shakespeare's page, says he tried taking over a body. I'm wondering if that was justified and now who is the good or bad guy...

But... If he's Milletian, he could have 'rebirthed' into another body?
(He shoulda taken Dougal's body because he didn't need it...)

Writing scripts is Shakespeare's method of rebirthing. As in the example with Shylock, Shakespeare made a contract with him. If Shylock failed to kill Antonio within xx time, his spirit will be moved into the story of Golvan, and Shakespeare will live in Shylock's body, safe from Morrighan for the time being. If he succeeded, however, Shakespeare shows him his family. That's why the Gods forbid books. I'm not entirely sure why he can't/doesn't rebirth the traditional way. Maybe it is because Morrighan would capture him if he entered Erinn's Soul Stream?

A lot of puzzling things...

It shouldn't be possible for Morrighan to kill us, since we overpower her. But, even if she dies, she'll just respawn back in Falias like how Nuadha(?) and Cichol did.

Also, is she still having trouble eliminating the Fomors and Tutha De Danann? Shakespeare's Future Sight shows her killing Milletians so easily...

I don't know what you mean by "respawning in Falias". Nuadha's first death, he was summoned back to life in the Underground Waterways. Cichol's death or fake death was never explained. Lesser gods like them and Morrighan are not immortal, and the same goes for Milletians. There is a way to kill almost everyone. And she isn't trying to kill the Tuatha De Danann (from what we know so far). She's trying to kill those who are foreign of Erinn.

According to this video, G15 takes place around the time of G10/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJebfrQqicI
Although it seems cutoff. Either A: The rest of that video shows how Cichol tricked us into thinking he was dead. Or B: He was summoned back to life.

isnt this the memory of imp telling ogre about death of Cichol?

Weren't Partholons descent from Erinn? Morrighan killed them all except one, did she not?

I'm aware no one is truly immortal, but Nuadha (and possibly Cichol) came back from death. Even if we kill Morrighan, she'll probably come back, too.

Her target was not Partholon. Shakespeare was hiding within them, so in attempt to kill Shakespeare, she released a plague. And there's nothing saying she purposefully spared Python Knight. And there is a possibility of Morrighan coming back if we do kill her.

So she unintentionally killed an entire race... What the hell, Morrighan?

I believe that even if Shakespeare is captured, he'll still escape somehow. I mean, he was captured by Grim and reappeared in the following Gen.

But, I'm still wondering who's the good guy and the bad guy... Shakespeare did something unjust did he not?

Technically, Shakespeare, the players, and every other Milletian are the main antagonists of the game... That doesn't necessarily mean we're the bad guys, but we are the antagonists. And I though Grim was just chasing Shakespeare, never actually catching him.

Wait, how are we antagonists? What have we done to deserve such a title?

If you recall in Generation 13's finale, several bars forming a cage appeared around Shakespeare right after Grim showed up. The bars were still around in his post-dialogue.

We are literally aliens to Erinn. We come to their world, influence their culture, battle their wild life, and mettle in their affairs. Wouldn't you be as annoyed as Morrighan is?

True we are aliens, but aside from meddling, we haven't done much wrong have we?

“	We come to their world, influence their culture, battle their wild life, and mettle in their affairs.	„

That is very wrong... Regardless of what a single Milletian (the player) has accomplished.

Another question: How does Merchant of Venice partake in this role?

(Honestly, I've never even read it...)

Neither have I... lol I assume it has to do with the contract to kill Antonio?

Apart from Shakespeare's past, you also have the MoV storyline plot to follow. It ties in a bit with G14S4 (Ascon's story, some chars were mentioned)

Hi all, I am planning to start the G15 walkthrough. I will base it on the JP guide since G15 was recently released there.

Since my wiki-fu is pretty weak, do forgive me if the guide does not live up to the standard set by the wiki. In that case, I hope the kind editors can help to improve the guide.

Also, as I will be busy with school assignments, I will work on the guide in several parts. Is this acceptable? Do I need to put an indication of Work-in-Progress anywhere?

Thank you very much.

On the other hand, I think I should just finish it now while I still can.

Since my knowledge of Japanese is stil limited, I apologise if there are errors in translation, especially with regards to the Quest Names.

Quest 11: The name used in JP is 平民だから. I can't find a good English equivalent for it, so I just went for the literal translation with the words in brackets used to make the phrase sensible.

Persona: The JP name is シャイロックの歩み. It's English name as shown in-game is Footstep of Shylock.

Comments, critic and suggestions are welcome. Some flaming will also be accepted (as long as the flamer's Flame Burst skill rank is not too high >w<).

See you in G16!

You've done a good job, a lot better than me google-translating it all! Thank you :)

The G15 Teaser Video calls it The First Contract. So whats it suppose to officially be called?? o:<

I think we should leave it as it is until it comes to NA (in two months from Korea's release according to the last livechat). I've heard it be called First Trade, Merchant of Velvas, First Contract, and Merchant of Venice. It does get a bit confusing.

Confusing but i think i follow

When was it released in Korea?

It's supposed to say in the Patches page, however someone didn't update it for Korean's timeline, so its incorrect.

I think it was released somewhere in July, August?

NA's G15 login title calls it "The First Contract". (In case any of you were wondering, KR test has the files of all the login titles of all servers).

There's already spoilers and ending on youtube anyhow.

Contract is the correct term once you know the story.

Back in July it was iffy, not now in August and September, I don't see why this is still being discussed...

So, how long until we can get a guide going for this?

Until someone who plays on the Korean server writes it or it reaches NA and we write it.

I can't seem to change it, but it says "Unlike previous Shakespearean Generations, Generation 15 will only be based on one of Shakespeare's works" This is just wrong, G13 had only Hamlet and G14 was only Romeo and Juliet.

changed.

How exactly was that wrong?...

Because, like previous generations, this is based on one of Shakespeare's works.

The difference being the previous generations actually had Shakespeare's work. This one did not.

Okay then. Thank you for answering your own question. e-e

I wasn't answering my own question, I was explaining why I think the original statement was correct. Why is it wrong?

Because it stated that unlike other ones, this one only had ONE of Sheakspeares work, the others have the same, and if this one doesn't have any of his work, it is still wrong because it says it does.

No, the original statement said.

“	only be based	„

It never said it was the only one that had it. I still do not see why people are saying it's wrong...

Original meant "only be based" as "only have motive" of Merchant of Venice.

however, some people got confused and changed to :"only be based on one of Shakespeare's works"

which means completely different thing.