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Talk:Mabinogi Quiz Show (Mar. 2011)
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Thread title | Replies | Last modified |
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"bad questions" section | 3 | 21:00, 28 March 2011 |
Different start times | 2 | 17:18, 24 March 2011 |
Vandalism going on in this page | 3 | 12:41, 24 March 2011 |
The Unofficial Rules before submitting Questions | 12 | 16:08, 21 March 2011 |
Limit to obtaining Bull Whistle/pet | 0 | 11:51, 20 March 2011 |
Royal Library | 11 | 06:09, 19 March 2011 |
Wrong category | 1 | 01:29, 19 March 2011 |
Same name, different clothes? | 2 | 23:46, 18 March 2011 |
Bull Whistle? | 1 | 23:21, 18 March 2011 |
In addition to having them in the list, we should put a section above the list with all the questions that are factually incorrect or for which the game accepts the wrong answer. For quick perusal and memorization. Aye?
It would mess people up if we had a section within the same page. Ctrl + F would get that section which could ruin someone's chances of getting the right answer.
Not that this is at all relevant anymore, but no, it wouldn't, not if the questions were only in the list once.
I think this would be a good idea to do only after the event.
I'm pretty sure the event starts at the same time across multiple channels. It's just that the servers managing some of the channels fall behind or get ahead of the other servers, which causes it to seem to start at different times. Just check the clock after you CC and see if it's within 10-20 mins of the channel you just left. Like on Ruairi, ch 4 was lagging about 2 hours behind ch 6 in-game a maintenance ago.. and there was that time where ch 2 was a whole 16 mins behind the other 6 channels (infinite mana tunnel lol)
That would make sense if Mabi's servers modeled Erinn time off of a mapping between real-world time and time of day/date in-game, but I don't think that's the case... it seems more likely that the clock position is calculated when the server's initialized and then incremented at a constant rate, which both explains why desynchronization occurs and why the amount of it varies across servers (whose individual loads fluctuate during the day)
Just my $.02
Edit: okay, yeah, now they're noticeably spaced apart. Lost early on on ch T-06 and had enough time to get to the T-02 quiz field before it started there. I guess the servers' timefail will continue to be a mystery.
There seem to be a case of multiple people vandalizing the correct answers and placing them into the wrong spot in order to mislead people who followed the website. Had anyone else also been called out of the game because of this reason?
I think it's time to place a lock on this page to prevent anymore vandalism, and only allow the people who are trustworthy to edit.
Just my inquiry.
I believe several of these aren't vandalism, but weird questions like the one with Pierrick thinking he's an eligible bachelor; for some reason, they're registering as opposite of what research shows, possibly due to very small differences in the appearance of the question and a failure on Nexon's part to fact-check (or even to double-check that they had no repeated questions). For instance, I could swear that I actually *did* see a question regarding Dorren and a mole near her mouth come up as "true."
On the other hand, there's the person who deliberately wiped the whole list of questions 3 times.
1) F%#! dynamic reply boxes, you lose all your text when you accidentally leave the page.
2) I think this is just a case of people not reporting questions accurately enough. If everyone who wished to contributed used FRAPS or something similar, I don't think we'd have nearly as many problems. (The case with the questions about Pierrick as an example, those would have been noticed instantly rather than debated over for a couple days.)
3) I'm pretty sure we have 90-95% of the questions listed by now. We should just be finalizing the list at this point, I think.
Since a lot of people has neglected to edit this page properly, whether this is due to inability to follow the editing courtesy, or other factors, I thought I should set up an unofficial guidelines for everyone to follow, to avoid less confusion in the future.
1.) Keep the list in Alphabetical Order
Before you start editting, make sure you post the questions in their alphabetical spot. Don't be lazy and just JAB it in there and expecting other person to clean up after your mess. Because if somebody has to do that, it slows their own progress with posting up their own questions just to take care of the mistakes that you've made. The reason for this is so we can have the questions organized and to avoid repetition, in the event that other users also have the similiar questions.
2.) DO NOT change the actual Question's grammar or spelling
Don't even change the questions that you received from the quiz, PERIOD. For example if you have a question asking if
"You can obtain a title by capturing a bear in a single blow"
don't change it to
"You can obtain a title by slaying a bear in a single blow"
This also go for abbreviation such as changing "United States" to "U.S"
The reason for that is so when people try to search for the exact question in game it won't give them a Search Failed message. Remember that players only have 10 second to look up for the answer, so don't edit the questions in Anyway, Shapes and Forms, and make sure they're within game context. The only exception to this rules is the Capitalization, because search engine won't care whether the words are capitalized or not.
3.) DO NOT delete any questions
I don't care if some questions asked during the quiz is so simple as "Ferghus is a Blacksmith in Tir Chonaill", LEAVE THE QUESTION ALONE. There may be some people who are new to the game that don't know the answer to this question. So if there are any questions that are so basic, DON'T DELETE IT and shun other people away.
Also if you see a similiar question/answer but in a different wordings, don't delete it. You can't tell whether that was intentional or not by NEXON staffs. Remember when people hit Control + F, they're hoping to get a highlight on words, so don't take their chances away just because a similar question already existed and you decided to remove it.
4.) Avoid posting a question that you Can't Remember
If you can't remember the exact phrases for the Question, then put some notice around it. If you can't remember the answer to the question at all, DON'T POST IT. The last thing this website needs is to have players complaining about Mabinogi World Wiki giving out an "incorrect" information. The best way to grab the questions from the Quiz is with a Video Recorder. There's already one in the game at the bottom right icon. Just click on it when the quiz starts, and review it after it's over. Then find out whether the Questions are True or False and post it.
5.) If the Question's answer is wrong, DON'T CHANGE IT.
Once in awhile you might be receiving an answer that isn't 'Correct' during the Quiz. If that's the case, just abide by it and put a notice such as (Factual Incorrect) message around the question. But don't edit the answer from FALSE to TRUE and vice versa, because it won't change the game mechanic. And in the end, you'll provide players with a Wrong information.
6.) Preview the Questions before you hit Submit
Remember to preview any questions in their appropriate spot before you hit submit. Otherwise you'll have other editors worrying whether that question is factual incorrect or not. So to avoid mass confusion, remember to double check your questions.
Hopefully after reading this, there will be less mistakes made in the future. Remember that this event will only lasts for 2 weeks, so keep those questions coming. Every time you submit a question, you'll increase the players chance of winning.
Thanks for reading.
So I'm assuming it's safe to alphabetize someone else's questions. Also, thanks for posting some sort of guideline and hopefully people follow the guide so everything is organized. :3--PhobieRouge 16:19, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Unfortunately recording the quiz is not efficient after question 20, it only records for 5 minutes, no longer. Just a word of warning
why is alphabetizing the list even relevant? avoiding repetition isn't a valid reason--as soon as you start using ctrl + f during the quiz, alphabetization no longer matters
unless i'm missing some key detail
Alphabetizing looks clean, it's how we normally (if not always) format lists for events, and it does help with preventing repetition to an extent (some editors don't take a minute or two to skim/CTRL-F through the list; however, it does help those that are cleaning up the page).
So, we could just organize them by keyword, or genre, or just throw everything in there. Or settle with the usual alphabetizing, of which I personally prefer. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but, if anything, it does take a little more time due to the sorting.
I'd like a confirmation before this is added, please.
"Pierrick believes he is the most eligible bachelor" is listed as false, however when we were presented with the question "Pierrick in Tailteann believes he's most eligible bachelor", everyone who was in X was eliminated. Should this be included in the list of correct answers without removing the former?
That's weird, the exact opposite happens to us.
We got the question "Pierrick in Taillteann thinks he's the most eligible bachelor", and everyone who was on TRUE got removed.
Are you sure your exact question was
Pierrick in Taillteann believes he's the most eligible bachelor
and not
Pierrick in Taillteann thinks he's the most eligible bachelor
Please reply soon so we can get this matter over with.
Every time that "Pierrick in Taillteann thinks he's the most eligible bachelor" has come up for me, it's been true. Perhaps there are two very similar phrases that are tricking people. The next time it comes up I'll screen shot it.
I noticed that Nexon often corrected mistakes they made in their question, both about the syntax and the truth. So I guess what happened here is that. Since they made a mistake, they corrected the answer, and took the opportunity to change a word or two.
I don't think that's the case here. I believe the question is actually in the mix twice. Once as false, and once as true. I just received it again, and it was false this time.
I have just witnessed this ambiguous question myself, and it appears that the preposition is the determining factor. Whenever the question begins with "Pierrick of Taillteann," it registers as true. Because it was "Pierrick in Taillteann" this time, it registered as false.
I have no idea where to put the following information on the main page, but I have verified that you can obtain the Bull Whistle only by completing the relevant quest. (Talking to the host again with 777 tickets doesn't award you a whistle.) On a related note, you can get a whistle for every character that has the aforementioned quest; I completed the quest with both my elf and human characters, and am now the somewhat proud owner of two useless-in-battle walking item bags whose affection is still pretty cute.
The first question was "Rath castle has a royal library on the first floor". Everyone who was on X was kicked out of the event. Did they mess up the event or did the library move?
According to its page on the wiki it is on the second floor.
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Rath#Great_Hall_-_Second_Floor
Maybe they messed up the description and X is true and O is false?
They could be using the British convention of floor numbering, where 1st=Ground Floor, 2nd=1st, and so forth. I would not be surprised to know it was a world standard, considering that the US has the only non-standard units of everything.
I think this event is messed up. Just about everyone got the "wrong" answer when they stood on X for the question "You can get a title for taming a bear at age 10". I think that X is true and O is false. Either that or the nexon team REALLY screwed up.
Adding onto the list of screwed up questions: "Same character names cannot be used" was false according to the event. Everyone except an afk person that was on the X spot was kicked out. I suppose a rationalization would be that same names can be used across different servers but then that's just a really bad trick question because they weren't specific enough.
I tried testing X being true and O being false, didn't work. So thus, nexon just screwed up this event.
Angry birds has sold 7 million copies... the answer ended up being false and everybody got kicked. Can anybody else confirm this?
enjoy everyone
0-9 3 States in US border BC in Canada - O 10 mininum number to consider big band - O 300 in bowling perfect game - O
5 ships in Port Qilla – X 7 about character wins the lottery - X 30 str to become warrior in MS – X 3243 trees in Tir Chonaill - X
A Aeira is at the Dunbarton Bookstore – O Alexander hamilton appears in $10 USD - O Atrata in filis is black hair giant – O Answer to this question is O – O Antartica coldest point – O Australia smallest continent on earth – O
Ailionoa likes blue hair – X Alphabet four letter do not have straight lines – X Amaterasu Japanese god of fire – X American Civil War lasted from 1861 – 1865 – X American football field 300meters long – X Athena greek goddess of war - X Aodhan can be found in Bangor blacksmith shop - X Apple logo taken from left side – X All the bones in the human body connect to each other – X
B Bamboo world's tallest grass – O Bards call themselves mabinogi - O
Babe ruth's given name is geroge – X Black is a color – X Bryce's ideal type of girl is rather odd – X Bullet bob fire out cannons to attack Mario through series – X Buttermilk contains butter - X
C
Canada Day is July 1st – O
Capsaicin is active component in peppers make them spicy – O
CO2 added to soft drinks to make them fizzy – O
Cai is legendary blacksmith – X Can obtain title after capturing Bear at age 11 – X Cowboy Bebop, Faye Valentine is in her 20s - X Crystal Deer pets are currently on sale – X Cucumber is a fruit – X
D Dig volleyball player stops ball from hitting court in spike or attack - O Dinosour dna retrieved from amber in Jurassic park – O Doctor Lenard “Bones” Mccoy appeared in Star trek next generation - O Dr peter vankman invented proton pack in movie ghostbusters – O
Dan Castellaneta provides the voice of Bart Simpson – X Dungeons, all doors require a key – X
E Edward vampire – O Erinn has 1 moon - O Eweda was ususualy bright when Paden and Countess Eluned met first time – O
Enchant rates increased for new years 2011 event – X Erinn has 2 moons - X Eminem's real name is Mike Myers – X Ethna sells weapons - X Esras is a druid - X
F
Fancy Enchant has +will – O
Ferghus sometimes has slippery hands – O
First African American major league baseball player – Jackie Robinson – O
Florida southern most state in US – X Fomor attack only 5 participants – X Ford brand truck slogan rock – X
G Gas planet in solar system all have rings – O Galilean Moons belong to Jupiter – O Glenis husband has passed away – O Golem in one blow (Capturing) – O Guilds in Mabinogi – O Gulf of California also known sea of cortez - O
Gambit from x-man has power to absorb any form of energy release at will – X Grand Canyon is in Colorado – X Great Danes tallest of dog breeds – X Gladius can use its quick speed to strike twice – X Goat has two stomachs that allow it to eat metal - X Goliath, from tale of david and galiath came from the philistines – O
H
Hawaii is 50th and last currently state in US – O
Heero pilot of XXXG-01W Wing gundam in gundam wing - O
Heulfryn healer in qilla – O
Highest mountain south America Aconcagua - O
Holy Enchant has +hp option – O
Humans can dual wield broadswords – O
Humans can dual wield gladii – O
Humans have to equip a shield to use charge – O
Humans, Visards, Shinigamis and Hollows all make appearances in Bleach – O
Half-life silent protagonist morgan Freeman – X
Hamlet loves Juliet – X
Highest mountain peak in NA Canada - X
I
If you use Awakening of Light, your movement decreases – X
Illinois captiol is Chicago – X
Interstate highways in US run north south even number – X
J Johnny Depp's first major role Nightmare on Elm Street – O
Jake and elwood are names of blue brothers - X James Cameron directed 1997 transformers movie - X John Wayne starred in the Good, Bad and the Ugly – X
K Kristell loves Tarlach - O Kobe Bryant appeared in CoD commercial – O
Korean War ended in 1955 – X
L
Lord of Rings trilogy filmed entirely in New Zealand – O
L.A further west than Rano – X Leader of Autobots is Bumblebee – X Lost cats cannot be tamed – X Luxury tax requires person to pay in monopoly – X
M
Martin Lawrence is in the movie Blue Streak – O
Metal Gear Solid Meryl silverburgh roy campbell's daughter
Mike Myers plays both Dr. Evil and Austin Powers in International Man of mystery – O
Morrigan goddess of war – O
Morton Salt slogan “when it rains it pours” – O
Mystery science theatre 3000 tv show about man trap in space station, force to watch terrible movies for evil scientist – O
Mabinogi = blessing of birds – X
Mediterranean Sea is one of the seven seas – X
Monsters Inc. is Pixar's best high rated movie other than G – X
Music Room on the 1st floor of Rath Castle – X
N Nori = dried sheets of seaweed – O Nuadha is King of the Gods – O
Naruto is the host to the nine-tailed demon fox – X Naruto, Team 10 consisted of Ino, Shika and Choji – X Neo takes the blue pill – X No lit candles in rath royal guard bunkers - X
O
Odyssey, odysseus escapes from bonds while tied to a ship mast in order to see beautiful
Singing sirens – X
One Hydrogen and 2 Oxygen make up water – X
Oxygen most prevalent substance in our air – X
P Paden is a solider – O
Penguin is Batman's first villain – X Periodic symbol for the element Mercury is Mg – X All pets are mountable – X Plants that discharge water into atmosphere are call condensation – X Price doesn't come to bangor Priest Collen in Tara – X Princess Mononoke, San severs Lady Eboshi's arm - X
Q
R Racecar is a palindrome - O Ranald is at the Tir Chonaill School – O Rath royal castle hall atleast 1 pic – O Rath royal castle armory cannot trade – O Restoring enchant has no restrictions - O
Raptors are prehistoric hunters known for long talon like claw and lone hunting – X Red dwarf and White giant stages of star's life as it ages – X Restaurant in second floor of rath castle -X
S Shape of DNA stand call a double helix – O Shakespeare plays are divided into 4 types - comedy tragedy history and romance - O Simon in Dunbarton is doing a tap dance – O Soprano highest vocal voice – O Sputnik made in Russia - O Square is a rectangle – O Stamina recovery potions are yellow – O St Patrick color orginially blue – O Sudan has largest land mass in continent of Africa – O
Same names cannot be used – X Seth green voices Stewie in family guy - X Sinead in the Rath Royal Castle is the Royal Library Manager - X Spongebob said his favorite food is jelly fish jam – X Sun is in middle of our galaxy, as seen from outside our galaxy - X
T
Tannessee and Missouri both share border with 8 states – O
Tara, the grocery store used to be where the general store is right now - O
There is a penguin-shaped robe – O
There is an alchemist named Dorren in Taillteann – O
THE CAKE IS A LIE – O
The dog on the Cracker Jacks Box is named Bingo - O
The last name of Dumbledore means bumblebee in old English – O
Trefor Ranald's mentor – O
Totoro - laughter gets rid of dust bunnies - O
Tara does not have a Town Square – X Tara no bookstore because is not popular – X Tarlach is God of the Bears – X The first records of Glas Ghaibhleann is about the battle that took place between the Partholonians and Giants – X The Great Pyramid of Giza is the only wonder of the ancient world still to exist – X The Terminator, Sarah Connor is the police officer – X There are seven plumes on the NBC peacock – X There is a royal library on the 1st floor of Rath Castle – X There is a jousting arena in Taillteann – X There is an alchemist named Dorren in Tara – X There is an armory on the 2nd floor of the Rath Royal Castle – X There is no Pontiff's Court in Tara - X Triassic, Cretaceous and pleistocene perids of all era goes to mesozoic era – X Trigger was name of lone ranger horse – X
U US uses the imperial system – O
V Vales is a non-flight zone – X Voldemort is Harry's father - X
W Windmill can be used to make ranged attacks – O Windmill methods include attacking several powerful enemies at once – O When it rains, it pours is the Morton Salt slogan – O
Wanst in vales has no beard - X Wolverine's mutant power is an indestructible Metal Skeleton – X
Y You can compose music in Mabinogi – O You can dance in Mabinogi – O You can get married in Emain Macha - O You can greet your friends in Mabinogi – O You can purchase animal cards with NX – O You can tame wild animals in Mabinogi – O You can use spirit weapons in Mabinogi – O
You can use any taming cane to tame an animal – X
You cannot go on an adventure in Mabinogi – X
You need an empty bottle to gather Mythril – X
"Pocahontas once appeared on the back of the twenty dollar bill" is not Mabinogi related.
I managed to get a charming pouch and got Korean Traditional Shoes (M), vut they're not like the ones listed (aka the Delegation event ones), so maybe the clothes are different too?