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Shield?

Are the hidden defense bonuses are the same as a normal shield? That's awfully strange since it provides magic defense...

If that's true, then its just unfortunate too how there's a even greater gap between shields and guard cylinders.

Infodude575 (talk)11:23, 5 October 2013

We have no way of determining how much def/prot/etc it gives, only that there is an unexplained damage reduction which points to hidden defensive stats.

Pyro - (Talk)12:36, 5 October 2013

Wat? You talking about the hidden stats?

 

Ya, why? Know how to find them? They weren't in itemdb last I had checked.

Pyro - (Talk)21:52, 5 October 2013

...They're there. Since... as long as I can remember.

 

How'd we obtain the hidden stat values for the individual shields in the first place?

Infodude575 (talk)22:02, 5 October 2013

Not through Data Mining.png!! SSHHHCANTTANKABOUTTHAT!

 

"Can't tank"? What?

Infodude575 (talk)13:24, 6 October 2013
 

Do you seriously not understand what the typo meant or did you just want to show how little you know?

I can't help you out if it's the latter.

 

Nope to either, I am simply pointing out your mistake.

Infodude575 (talk)16:21, 6 October 2013
 
 
 
"Can't tank"? What?
 

 

sounds nothing like

 
 
Hey, you made a typo. You said "tank" instead of "talk".
 

 

So glad to see that even after being gone for half a year, nothing's really changed >_>

Yinato (talk)16:53, 6 October 2013
 

Welcome back to the insanity that is, Mabinogi world Wiki's discussion pages :D...

Ehh that aside, I do have one question: While Guard Cylinders fully function as a shield, while with the benefit of a cylinder, would it benefit from both cylinder and shield enchants? I think I might have overlooked something around here.

まそっぷ ! (talk)18:59, 6 October 2013
 
 
 
Accepts both cylinder- and shield-type enchants, but only receives shield-type reforges.
 

 

 

Yeah...I found that shortly after looking at the page. Another thing, why is that note about tower cylinders there? o-o;; it's not like you can equip anything in that slot anyways when a tower is equipped...

まそっぷ ! (talk)19:03, 6 October 2013
 

Because stupidity is in the air~ Take a deep breath!

Didn't even notice that edit until you just mentioned it.

 

Did someone call? Anyway, the only justification I can think of for that is because the term "Cylinder" subjectively refers to all Cylinders as evident of the Cylinder List page. I dunno, just saiyan...nib

鍾国豪-BIassreiter (talk)19:13, 6 October 2013

Cylinder page is incorrectly categorized, anyway.

 

According to the Tower Cylinders page, they're one-handed weapons. That means you can equip something on the left-hand slot with it, no?

Infodude575 (talk)19:16, 6 October 2013

You sound like you've never played Mabinogi before.

 

On the other hand, Puppet Handles are one handed weapons but cannot be given shields.

Pyro - (Talk)19:49, 6 October 2013
 

DevCAT has really odd classifications of weapons. I guess its expected since they screwed up with instruments.

Infodude575 (talk)20:03, 6 October 2013
 

Could you post on my Talk page how DevCat screwed up instruments? I'd like to hear that.

Kave Johnson (talk)17:36, 7 October 2013