Talk:Gems/Archive/00

Jewel Chart

Should we add a chart that shows which jewel will increase which stat for each ego weapon? I don't know where in the page or wiki i should put this so I'll put my funny looking chart here:

Jewel	Sword		Blunt		Bow		Wand
	Male	Female	Male	Female	Male	Female	Male	Female
Jasper	?	Will	?	?	?	?	?	?
Star Sapphire	?	Int, Dex	?	?	?	?	?	?
Ruby	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Aquamarine	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Garnet	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Topaz	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Spinel	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?
Emerald	?	?	?	?	?	?	?	?

---Dias 19:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks good! I like it.  :) Don't forget diamonds? I don't know about all the other egos, but I know female wands get a little of everything from diamonds. I forget the specifics of the other gems' results with my wand, but I'll come back later when I've given her some more. --Wolfy

Added a complete chart to the main page. Information should be correct, but I'm also not sure it's the best place for it.--Trapnest

Rest of the Favorites

Ok, so the jewels page has the below favorites.

   * Ethna likes Jasper.  (Qilla)
   * Simon likes Rubies.  (Dunbarton)
   * Voight likes Emeralds.  (Cor)
   * Lassar likes Topaz.   (Tir Chonaill)
   * Jennifer likes Garnets.   (Bangor)

Did anyone try going through each town and talking to every single one of the inhabitants with the keyword?--Demaetri 07:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Anyone think we should make the individual gem's pages more detailed? I think like include info like what stats it gives to which spirit weapons? --Marthian 17:37, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe that the other NPCs in the future content will like the other jewels

Gems for Feeding

Some guy at mabiguru posted a neat guide on Gem Feeding which also contains a handy tool for gem feeding, sizes required and so forth. It's easy enough to get the hang of but suffice to say, of the three options at the top the first simply takes gem sizes and show you what stats you can get. Second option does something similar, third option takes your weapon type, stat levels and then regurgitates what size for each gem will "max" in a feeding. Note that because it takes all stats into account, this option will cater for the lowest common denominator.--Mystickskye 01:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

If someone can get permission and do a full conversion of this tool to the english language it could be applied to the wiki, making buying and feeding jewels a much more precise task, rather than hoping you bought the right size jewel. Insanity to all ~<3 05:06, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Rain and Shine...

--From Ariel 07:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC) I have tested this several times now and have come to the confirmed conclusion both in river and ocean metallurgy that while it is raining additional spots you can use metallurgy pop up that are all golden colored. So if your sitting there on a sunny day looking at the beach and it begins to rain the gold sparkle pools pop up and the silvery blue ones stay.

Also when the rain ends the silvery blue sparkle pools remain but the gold ones disappear. Now I'm not saying you cant find golden ones on a sunny day but they are like 1 in 20 vs 1 in 5 during rain. Also I could be wrong but at least in port Quillia during rain I've only gotten gems out of the golden sparkle pools. Can anyone confirm my findings? So far I've seen this happen and taken note of it 3 times so I'm sure but I'd like to hear somone confirm my findings b4 i edit the page with this info.

(BTW I like to enclose my comments on open and close with my sig and hope others will adopt a similar style it makes it easier to tell which writing is whose on talk pages.) --From Ariel 07:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The Golden Spots actually only appear due to rain. However, "rain" is defined specifically in-game and iirc levels of rain (rain has a value from 0 through to 20 iirc) wherein it doesn't visibly rain can also cause the Gold Metallurgy Sites to appear. My memory is hazy but I think they stick around very slightly after the rain itself stops due to the weather value changing.--Mystickskye 08:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually...rain DOES create more "normal" nodes to use metallurgy, in addition to making the gold ones appear. Every time I've been digging around in the rain, I've noticed not only gold but a lot of normal spots appear/disappear when the rain starts/ends as well. Qaccy 08:27, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

During rain I have gotten gems out of silver spots, it might just be that people go for golden spots more often when it rains, and the drop rate is better(?) in golden spots, so you don't get any gems from the silver by pure chance.--js16

There's a..whats the word.. a buffer time? Idk. A small period of time between when there's a message that says "The rain as stopped" and "The sky is clearing up", the gold spots will stay in that time, and about one second after. Also, if you're using metallurgy at a gold spot, and it disappears while you're still sifting through the sand/mud/whatever else there is, there's the message that appears if you attempted metallurgy where there isnt any sparkles. Something like "You are unable to find anything", seeing as even if you fail ("Metallurgy as failed" etc.) you still find something, as of right now, rather useless.

Also, referring to what js16 said, on the metallurgy page, it says that the chance of getting jewels isnt affected by either site, and the gold ones have different rates, not necessarily better ones. I believe its like.. a higher chance of iron, and less of copper...idk.--^♪♫_♪♫тιиα♪^♫♪_♫^ταιқ♪♫_♪ 20:30, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Question

What does "Gem able to give state + Grown able state" mean? --Simpet 23:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I would also like an answer to this. Like an example of the values. Kendoza 19:02, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Sparkle sparkle~

So, on the metallurgy page, it says that jewels ("gemstones") can be imbued onto armor and weapons via upgrades. I know I probably shouldn't bet aking these literally, but are the jewels actually visible when the upgrade is done..?--^{IDK 's} Talk 17:26, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Weapons, no and I'd assume the same for shields --DarkWyvern 07:05, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Jewel Upgrade for Tools.

It's noted that tools cannot have jewel upgraded. But looking for myself, Gem Repair Upgrade is indeed listed under Gathering Axe Upgrade ingame Is this an error on wiki's part or maybe the game's part?

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7468/toolgemupgraded.jpg

I would test for myself, but I do not have any gems... --Sai 15:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Gem able to give state + Grown able state

What do these mean?--Sozen Cratos Focker 06:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

New gems?

What are these? I found them in a shop today in Dun; http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=File:NewJewels.jpg It's worth noting that the Tear looking one isn't a Tear of the Spirit; it has gem mesurements and everything. I didn't try buying and feeding to my ego, the description and names of the jewels was untranslated text. -- BladeBlade 03:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

They're Nekojima jewels, I think. I'll have to check with someone who plays on JP. --Jαy 03:40, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Seems like those "metals in Metal Conversion" (e.g. Zinc, Nickel). Also since you need to enter Tara to learn Metal Conversion, it would not be surprising if people already have the skill as well.--钟国豪-BIassreiter 03:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay the purple is Amethyst and the tear drop one is Rose Quartz(gray one's name is unknown). They can be obtained by glitching into Tara iirc. --Jαy 03:52, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Nekojima.--Hengsheng120·^TALK_CONTRIBS 04:00, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps this should be added somewhere on the page for Jewels? -- BladeBlade 05:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)