Talk:Generation 2: Paladin

I just started G2 today. I started talking directly to Craig about the Knight of Light (I did -not- talk to Nele or J (what's-his-name)) and I got the Paladin keyword directly from him. So we can skip those steps, it seems. Also, the pass was 4k. I'll edit to reflect these changes. --- Angevon 21:18, 21 May 2008 (PDT)

is the pass 4k or 40k? in the guide there are 4 zeros after the coma

Rofurius(Sp?)

It seems this npc is actually Nele and has been renamed in the NA of Mabinogi Someone should correct this as many have appeared to become confused by this step in the Wiki guide

I will correct as I get through G2, but I'm kinda going slowly ... --- Angevon 09:24, 24 May 2008 (PDT)

Editng and Adding into G2 Guide

As all you know of that this guide is from Chinese version, so some NPC names is differnt from NA version, so please try to fix it as I put more stuff in G2 Guide. --- Jiuhin 11:54, 27 May 2008 (PDT)

Question

What is the merit of dividing the entire quest into different blocs? It bothers me seeing after Agnes' heal/first aid/res part, the following bloc is named "Unknown Quests". I shall change it to something more informative such as "Good Deeds" until someone can name it somehting better :d --Kgptzac 20:28, 8 June 2008 (PDT)

The G2 Guide is finished

Well I finally finished the G2 Guide by adding 4 to 5 more stuffs on it. --- Jiuhin 10:54, 14 June 2008 (PDT)

Mythril Mine

For the 1 hr limit, do you need to reach the boss room or clear it? is 6400 the maximum that the pass will cost or is that just the maximum shown?--Jacobpaige 11:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

You have to completely clear the dungeon, beat the boss, and get the end reward treasure chest within the one hour limit. You get kicked out when the hour is up, even if you just killed the boss at the last second and you're running for the reward. As for the passes, the maximum is 6400 and Gilmore will charge 6400 for every pass thereafter. --Naiya 19:36, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added some spawn patterns to the Mythril Mine entry on the Barri Dungeon page. If anyone wants to help out while running this dungeon, please do so. Feli 08:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Can anyone confirm if 27 mithril ore fragments are accepted in place of the 27 mithril ores? Since no one mines ores anymore this could drastically reduce time needed for this part of the generation. --Sanity 17:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I believe not, for it says Mythril ore in the quest log. Furthermore, 8 patches of mythril ore were available towards the end of the first floor many times I ran the dungeon, so it should take less time to mine it, considering transport time with metallurgy.--Leyuu 22:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I was able to mine all 27 mythril ores in one dungeon run. The only problem for me was inventory space though.In one run, I finished with only three runs to spare, and that was on my newbie character which was in the 20's in total. --Heckzu 03:13, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Ersa's letter box

Currently, the guide gives a warning that reading the letters will cause the client to crash. As of 2/14/2009, I read the letters and I didn't crash. Anyone else who hasn't finished G2 been able to test this as well? --Vinfang 02:17, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be a bug currently with a few of the keywords. Even though the storyline is "free" you cannot use the keywords without service. -Sogard6

Editing and adding to G2 guide

At the beggining of the guide ,it says that the paladin permission sheet it's worth 4k but in march 9th ,2009 , nexon added a g2 guide in their page that says the permission is worth 10k, should this be changed?

I just started G2, and the pass is still 4,000. -- Shoy

Dont listen to the Strategy Guide! It has too many typos!! ~ Shadowboy132

Skipping G2

Can you skip G2? If so, how? (Also G3) -- Fruitrecruit

I do not know if G2 is skipable, but I know G3 is. You have to talk to the Wierd Cat in Duncan's house. -- Eiyuu 06:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

g2 is no longer skipable. It was skipable for a short period of time, but nexon removed it --Kevin _(»Talk«) 07:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

The remove is probably because people would most likely abuse it, so they can get Free Paladin at their will. ~ Shadowboy132

What would be the recommended lvl...

for the Mythril Mine Dungeon? Is it possible to go with a party?

No, it would say you have to enter alone. I tried going with a friend today, but it wouldn't allow.--imKrazy 23:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I did it four times in total, 2 on each of my humans. The first human, I finished two for the quests and it was in the 60s or the 70s, I can't remember. For my second human, I was able to finish the two in the 20s I think and I finished G2 on it when it was exactly lvl 30 in total, with no rebirths.--Heckzu 03:13, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't recommend following Heckzu's example unless you are a raging badass, even with a max level of 100+ I can't beat the training dungeons at level 20, you may want to go at a bit higher level, 60-70s probably.--Kingman186 04:12, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Rank F windmill and dual wield can solo the entire dungeon, that's if you know what you're doing. --͟͞ҡ͟͞ε͟͞ѵ͟͞ו͟͞͞η _{[͟͞т͟͞α͟͞ι͟͞κ]} 04:14, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Ruairi's infinite hp

when i fought him in math i was actually winning i got a quarter of his hp down but a paladin trainee splashed me then ruairi finished me off, i dont think he has infinite hp and he appeared as awful to me so he doesnt have 1 mil cp either, can someone please verify this?

Why not get someone with mods (dun dun duuun) to view his CP? Oh, and it might be useful to note that the paladin rainees can splash damage youNovaix 08:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Whoever edited it: ruairi wouldn't have infinite HP/prot.Novaix 00:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Its not Infinite. I checked. But Link won't let me change it -_- ~ Darkblade

Indeed, it's not infinite but we don't know what it is either so don't pretend you do.--Mystickskye 01:31, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Spirit RP

"Unlike other RP dunegons where you can upgrade your skills with the AP provided, any AP used will not be deducted from your character" Makes no sense.Novaix 08:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

It refers that when you upgrade your skills as the Wolf, it will not be deducted from the player (if you have any).

Of course, this is too obvious already. Can we delete this? ~ Darkblade

Bosses

It appears that Tabhartas doesn't attack or load any skills after being smashed, not sure if this is a flaw in his A.I. or if it was the result of some kind of server-side lag but that's how it played out for me. If anyone can confirm or dismiss this idea that might provide a huge help since Ersas is hardly a fight in any way. --Sanity 12:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Tabhartas

I believe the Tabhartas creation materials should be moved to his page, this is a walkthrough section and nobody cares XP.Novaix 23:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Tried something like it. It didnt work. D: ~ Darkblade132

NPC List?

So uh, how comes theres no NPC list? I think all the other Generations have it, so why not this one? ~ Darkblade132

Paladin Class Tuition Fees

I did some calculations about the price tag for G2. In a worse-case-senario, it would cost 100K to complete the quests. Here's how I calculated...

__4000 Entrance Fee (To Esras)

__1800 Tuition (To Paladin Teacher [who's name I forgot])

__1001 Donations (To Beggar)

_10550 Medical (?) (To Healer for Heal/Mend/Revive)

_70000 Social Expences (To Players [on Alexina] if all NPC names are used)

_12700 Resources (?) (Maximum ammount of Mythril Dungeon Runs)

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100051 Total Cost

Keep in mind, this is a worst-case-senario. The total price would be 90K if the player already has Healing. The cost could be 77K if the player got ALL the needed Mithril on the first Mithril Dungeon Run and had Healing beforehand. Also keep in mind that I have not completed G2. This is just an estimate to see how much I might need to continue playing. Still, it looks like it might be a good idea to have 50-100K for this at the start.--Zkin 00:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The price could be cut down all the way to 7K if the player has some really good friends willing to do Ideals for free.--Zkin 00:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Tabhartas's Mana Deflector and Natural Shield

How come on the G2 walkthrough page it says that Tabhartas has no mana deflector and natural shield, while on the Tabhartas Monster Page it says that Tabhartas has Mana Deflector Level 1 and Natural Shield Level 1?, which is it? no mana deflector and natural shield, or level 1 mana deflector and natural shield? :/ SoraHikari 17:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

G2 Elf...Black Ostrich doesn't retaliate...nor does the Giant Hawk at the end.

Server lag or...?

ehh it didn't do anything at all. it wasn't lagging and it didn't aggro. at least to my memory. I'm sure it was a bug and it's probably fixed by now.

Could be a glitch where its AI wasn't installed...

I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case, though it may have to do with G16S2 Split...meaning incomplete AI.

They sorta fixed it...only to break during the protection dropping part... ._. what thell?

This also applies to giant's giant bear thing.

As an Elf, I never received Aer's Letter in item form, however, I was still able to progress through the quests.

Just out of curiosity, what does Aer say about Atrata and Taunes, and what do they say about the entire thing?

As an [insert race here] you cannot become a paladin...and that's about all I recall.

As far as Atrata/Taunes, they talk about how they've been researching(?) about the ancient power of elves/giants and give you the statue to give to aer in order to somehow awaken the lost power. (From Elven pov) I suppose giants will have similar dialog.

Funny, Morrighan tries to push Elves/Giants to becoming "Knights of Light" when really, they can't...

Does she still call them "KoLs" after Esras's defeat?

Atrata/Taunes even say they can't I believe...but yeah They all refer the Elf/Giant as a paladin.

Say if one was a Dark Knight (Probably refering to myself as well as any other dark knight)...would they be reconverted into Paladins O-o? Or will they be Dark Knights?

Asking a head of time cause as of late...there has been a lot of talk between me and a few friends regretting that they went to the dark side.

No if you are a Dark Knight, Beast, or already a Paladin the G16S2 G2 does not change anything. And if you are a beast, no you cannot turn into a Dark Knight.

ehh...this was strictly limited to humans...I think it's obvious that beasts can't be DKs/Pallys X_X

I hear in the RP, Elves become Birds and Giants become Bears.

But Bird as in the bird pet...?

It's probably a Falcon (Pet)

At the boss, if you're already DK, you become Paladin for a short while then go back to DK. I was a champion for a matter of 10 seconds and then was Infra again.

I found a few plot holes...

• Craig knows that we're Milletians.
• There's a massive skip in cutscenes in the first Barri Dungeon, so it directly ends up to Ruairi leaving Triona, with no explanation before it.

Oh yeah, "Doppelgangers" was replaced with "Hellhounds with disguises"...

Now here's my question about the temporary champion, would you get the achievement for it and still retain the infra black achievement?

If you're an Infra, you become Champion, then you revert to Infra.

Achievements never go away, so yes.

I've noticed that the information is getting really cluttered for c1 (g2 in particular), so would it be a good idea to seperate the storyline differences due to character races?

Just so this is bumped and noticed. C:

But yeah, pretty much, adding tabs to the skill pages made things very organized and easy to access, So adding tabs to the Advent chapter would be clever. Considering that separating how each generation is somewhat different for each race, it will be easy to follow and on the eyes, rather than picking apart well "this is how it is for elves", or "this is what happens for giants", it would be much cleaner to have separate tabs for each race. Yesterday, I was thinking about making new pages for it, but using tabs to keep it all on one page seems better.

Elves and giants have similar differences compared to human, who essentially got a nerfed version of the C1 quest ;c

Well, I know that instead of the Mythril Armor quest, Elves get the "Power of the Ancient Elves" quest. I'm also going to take a guess and say Giant's aren't going to have the same quest name as that XD.

Probably not, Giants probably get "Power of the Ancient Giants" just merge the elf and giants, but of course, state the differences...

Still going to wait until a few more people comment on the idea of tabs before going through with it, but yes, Elves and Giants could be clumped into one tab, but that's only if there's a slight difference between what characters of those two races have to do.

Based on the PTS info I got, and the JP servers, Elves/giants share the same quest line with minor alterations.

On a side notes DKs have nostalgia of being a pally during this...I unfortunately went straight to DK because: A)The well roundedness of stats kinda fits my playstyle B)I like dark side cookies :D...

The quests that are different can be tabbed within the section of the page for the particular quest.

Okay, I'll get to it later tonight.

I forgot, wiki markup doesn't like templates within templates :/ Okay,, I got it set up. However, would you prefer if the tabs were within the information section, or the table be within tabs?

“	I forgot, wiki markup doesn't like templates within templates :/	„
—Yinato

What're you smoking? We use templates within templates all the time.

Confused tables within tabs with templates within templates (I blame celebrating Canada Day with drinks :/)

Whatever he's on, I want some. Now would be a good time. Silly Tony is silly. o 3o

Silly Jessica, there's still 3 days until the 4th of July 8D... (going to point out in EST time zone before someone tries to be a smartass about it >>;)

Better smart than dumb. But I really should have watched this thread today. Doing Alby atm. So yeah, tabs look good, yadda yadda. Soon, you will have tabs all over this wiki. c:

I just found out that if you die while finishing the second half of the G2 finale fight against Esras and your pet still manages to kill her after you've died, the game will progress on as if you're still alive and you'll be resurrected and transported to Emain Square after the credits end. ((yes, I did die. She went into deadly and a skeleton smashed me, okay?)

Aren't you suppose to come back dead....? *lost*

I didn't...and I completed the generation, so maybe Devcat was a bit merciful this time.

Well it was only G2...I mean G1 was like that as well when i completed it...Funny story actually I had turn EvG on but I didn't know My brother had EvG on and he Spear of God me...true story...at least Glas died too.

lol Maybe we could add that onto the pages, that the generation will still complete for you if something else kills the monster after you've died.

Well at least you didn't get killed because your friend got trigger happy with B+ bombs >>;

Also, my friend just tested something similar by using fire ball in G12 final. He got killed right after he launched FB, but when FB landed, it killed nuadha and the cutscene played. Only difference is that he didn't get revived when he got warped to central falias, so he couldn't hit the pillar at the end to "finish" G12.

I can't beat the Math mission, NPCs won't attack ruairi and he won't attack them, I've used Play dead and even attacked Ruairi, they still just circle eachother, using defence at the most.

I think NPCs's AI and so is Ruari's Ai is broken, in G11, Cai and Leymore won;t attack even though they loaded up the skill.

I actually must correct myself, he did attack them eventually about 15 minutes in, he started killing one every five minutes or so.--Kingman186 11:57, 9 August 2011 (UTC)