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Compose should be renamed to Composing (and Musical Theory to Musical Knowledge). Saiyr 22:41, 29 March 2008 (PDT)

Will move the page. You can do this, too! --Kakurady 06:27, 30 March 2008 (PDT)
I don't think I have permission to. Isn't it supposed to be a tab at the top?
In a default MediaWiki installation move should be open to everybody... I'm not sure about Ucho though...

The summary chart's character limits for each rank and the limits written under each rank's section are not all matching up.
Chart for Rank D says Harmony 2 is limited at 100. But the Rank D section says it's limited at 150, for example. Rank C also is inconsistent in the same way. Can someone figure out which is wrong and fix it accordingly? --- Angevon

Not yet in NA version is in the wrong place it should be below rank 9, not above it. --Sinnoaria 05:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Anyone have a clue when the cap is taken off? User: Heme

Scroll Difficulty

Decided to put this here instead of playing or theory for no particular reason. Anyway, it says scroll difficulty rank is determined by musical knowledge rank, right? Therefore, wouldn't it be possible to create an incredibly complicated song that was also very easy to play. by not ranking theory?Novaix 09:25, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Yesh /: --Akumo 20:27, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Wow, they'd sell for a lot wouldn't they?Novaix 04:52, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

r7 -> r6 Composing?

Currently, the page lists composing r6 as implemented, yet there is no method listed under r7... any word on the method? (I've heard from a few people that it is there, but still nothing on how to obtain it). ---Ineya 10:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Name203:57, 25 August 2017
Very old topic.010:55, 2 November 2014
Diva Changes010:29, 19 December 2013
MML is inaccurate when reading from scroll410:43, 16 August 2013
Composing at 5221:32, 25 November 2012
NA Test Server113:09, 24 October 2012
Some raw data the needs confirmation719:39, 3 September 2012
"Capped"015:07, 1 September 2012
Rank 5 -> 3719:02, 26 July 2012
r5 takes 0 ap?007:02, 26 July 2012

This skill got renamed Compose.

Kapra (talk)00:42, 25 August 2017

Did they only do this for Composing?

It makes me worry that we're gonna end up seeing other -ing words go through the same change, e.g.:

  • Blacksmithing -> Blacksmith
  • Tailoring -> Tailor
  • Cooking -> Cook
  • Weaving -> Weave
  • Fishing -> Fish

I suppose I'll just go ahead and change it at the risk of Nexon changing it back.

Snowie (talk)01:22, 25 August 2017

I sure hope they don't. Fear

Kadalyn (talk)03:57, 25 August 2017

Very old topic.

Hey, there was a time that we could find the MML of "default tunes", I know that it was removed cause the difficult rank of a scroll is now based on musical knowledge. But I was dying to compose some default tunes... Someone still got that list saved anywhere, so I can Copy and save on my computer?

Arthuring (talk)10:55, 2 November 2014

Diva Changes

If no one else is planning to Need to take a new Image screen shot for the new composing changes as in addition to adding information about the new song portion of the compose section.

Manakitty (talk)10:29, 19 December 2013

MML is inaccurate when reading from scroll

I recently had a duet I really liked run out of uses and it was originally from the long-dead Japanese mml site. I tried to screenshot the pages of MML and manually copy them into 3ML, but it seems like it was missing a few small sections sometimes. My guess is that the text was cut off at the end of some lines or something. So yeah, just throwing it out there if anyone tries the same thing.

On a related note, does Mabinogi really not give a way to copy the scroll's MML to clipboard or something? I don't quite understand the point of hiding the MML by checking the Closed box during composing if there isn't because most people aren't crazy enough to manually copy the MML... and even if they are, it'll be broken.

Blargel (talk)19:57, 6 October 2012

Some parts are broken because of the way the client reads and displays the code. Some of it is interpreted as something other than plain text, making it disappear when being read.

The point of hiding MML using the check box is to prevent plagiarism in case people want to share their score without sharing their MML or would like to sell their score scrolls.

So then is there no way to fix this? I've got a LOT of songs I really don't want gone forever..

IGoddessl (talk)12:47, 30 July 2013

There is, but it requires "other" methods.


"Other" methods that are probably sketchy and bannable? Well that just ain't fun at all! ; ^;

IGoddessl (talk)10:43, 16 August 2013

Composing at 5

Does it work?

Ke-fun19:41, 23 July 2012

In case anyone is still having the problem where they can't rank Composing from 5->4 after the Bard update, log a ticket explaining the problem, specify which server and character, and attach a screenshot of your composing skill window. I did this and the next day (!) a GM responded by mailing a reset capsule to the affected character to use to de-rank and re-rank the skill.

Angevon (Talk)21:32, 25 November 2012

NA Test Server

In r124, Composing gets limited to 850 past rank 8. Not sure if this is intentional, but it's what happened. Just leaving a message.

Seems to have been a mistake. Fixed in r125.


Some raw data the needs confirmation

Edited by another user.
Last edit: 19:39, 3 September 2012

I didn't want to post this on the main page as it will likely just clatter an already neat page especially with trivial statistical information...

Feel free to delete/modify/move this information as you see fit

Chance of Composing Magic Music Scroll(Needs Confirmation)

Rank F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
Probability 0 0 0 0 0 0 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70

Chance Of Which Magic Music Scroll is composed(Needs Confirmation)

Rank 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
+ Strength 18 18 16 15 11 10 10 9 8
+ Dexterity 18 17 16 15 11 10 10 9 8
+ Intelligence 18 17 16 15 11 10 10 9 8
+ Luck 12 12 11 9 10 10 9 9 6
+ Will 18 17 16 15 11 10 10 8 8
HP Recovery 4 5 7 9 9 10 8 8 8
MP Recovery 4 5 7 9 9 9 8 8 9
Stamina Recovery 4 5 7 9 8 9 9 9 9
+ Max. Accuracy 1 1 1 1 5 6 7 8 9
+ Magic Summoning Speed 1 1 1 1 5 6 7 8 9
Music of Peace 1 1 1 1 5 5 6 8 9
Berserker Music 1 1 1 1 5 5 6 8 9
Laden18:02, 17 April 2012

This is kind of really late... As they will be removing Magical Music in G16S2.

Pyro - (Talk)09:08, 18 April 2012

Wait wait wait... What?! Why?!!?

Infodude57512:43, 21 April 2012

As I said, only ones sold by Briana and obtained from Barry. (And maybe Tiro.)

Pyro - (Talk)12:48, 21 April 2012

oh that's tragic, I thought you just couldn't buy them or get them from part time jobs anymore I didn't realize that they are going to also remove the ability to compose them...

Laden13:50, 18 April 2012

Hmm, now that you mention it, maybe you can still write them...

Pyro - (Talk)14:00, 18 April 2012

Never mind. I spoke with Sol, she says only NPC-obtained ones are gone. Not composed ones. So this is still relevant. How did you get this data? Testing?

Pyro - (Talk)12:38, 21 April 2012

I got chance to compose data from skil_leveldetail.xml I figured since

  • var 1-3 where already used for melody/chord1/chord2
  • var4 only has values greater then 0 until r9 (requirement for magic music)
  • the fact that from personal experience i have noticed an increase in the amount of magic music scrolls since i ranked composing/musical knowledge from r9

All that combined lead me to the conclusion that var4 likely maps to chance of composing a magic scroll.

As for the chance of which type of scroll table I obtained that from bardsong.xml.
Unfortunately I don't know which skill(composing/music knowledge) that the tables refer too I might perform a test later when i have the time/gold to rank up those skills on a mule character.

Laden15:31, 21 April 2012

I can understand not being able to achieve the master title as being "capped", but this is just...

If it has no master title, why would it be capped? You cannot go further than rank 1 and probably never will be able to..

Rank 5 -> 3

I don't see any of the books in Yvona's shop... O-o

Infodude57517:17, 26 July 2012

So basically sometimes its there, and sometimes its not? I think that's stupid.

By the way, does she have r7->5 books in her shop or no?

Infodude57518:39, 26 July 2012

Limited Stock, and it's getting bought out immediately. Not sure if she has r7 to r5 books.

Fishstickys18:42, 26 July 2012

If she doesn't have r7->5, I'm going to be pissed...

Infodude57518:44, 26 July 2012
P work for theem!!
Fishstickys18:47, 26 July 2012


Infodude57518:54, 26 July 2012

Assuming its available :c

Fishstickys19:02, 26 July 2012

r5 takes 0 ap?

I just ranked my comp up to r5 and strangely enough it said 0 ap required. I took a before and after screenshot, but due to some glitch the 2nd screenshot wrote over the first one. Is this a 0 ap thing a common glitch, something people should know about?

Kamau12:17, 2 July 2012