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Lance Usage.

Lance Usage.

Can you lance charge with the partner on you?

Deletion (talk)13:29, 28 September 2012

No, with the commerce partner on your back, you are unable to do lance charge or any kind of combat of any kind.

Dias (talk)10:16, 1 October 2012
 

That would be really, really weird... And she isn't a horse you know.

Infodude575 (talk)10:24, 1 October 2012
 

I think you mean..."You're not a horse with a lance equipped to the side you know."

neh other than that, Dias is correct. I don't even think you can load any skills prior to the mounting. o-o

S•A•R•I•A (talk)10:46, 1 October 2012
 

What about elves?

Infodude575 (talk)10:53, 1 October 2012
 

Elves cannot use ranged attack or any ranged abilities while commerce partner is mounted.

Dias (talk)15:31, 1 October 2012
 

Well that sucks...

Infodude575 (talk)17:00, 1 October 2012
 

Either the inability to use combat skills while she it piggyback is a glitch or you having all you combat ability is a glitch. I, like you am unable to do anything but run while she is riding on me, but I have 3 friends that I have seen attack, use windmill, smash, throwing attack, charge and lance charge while she is riding them.

Godwrath1 (talk)14:26, 15 October 2012
 

They're probably using mods, have you asked them?

Pyro - (Talk)14:48, 15 October 2012
 
 
 
If multiple Commerce Partners are owned and you do the Partner quest for one of them you are unable to do it for the others.
 

 

That's not a glitch, it's intended and even on the Partners page.

 
 
While gathering the Commerce Partner will do the gathering animation and gain the stress but will not gather any items.
 

 

If she's like Maids and Butlers, you have to reach 80 disposition before she can actually help you gather.

As for being unable to dismount her, I'm assuming this is because you're using a certain weapon combination?

Pyro - (Talk)14:51, 15 October 2012

I see, I didn't read that partner page. And I'm sure they not modding because two of them are real life friends and one of those friends had to have me set up the game on his computer because he couldn't figure it out. So I hardly think he would be able to install any mods, let alone mod it himself.

Godwrath1 (talk)15:08, 15 October 2012
 

What about their character's races?

Pyro - (Talk)16:05, 15 October 2012

They are all giant and so am I but I'm the only one who cant use any skills or even use basis attack out of the four of us.

Godwrath1 (talk)20:13, 16 October 2012
 

What about the partner's level and disposition? Do any of them have multiple characters on that account? If so, ask them to try on another character.

Pyro - (Talk)22:44, 16 October 2012

The only fried I could get hold of today says that he only has that one character. He has 2 partners and he told me there dispositions are +17 and -147. Neither of their levels is over 20. He went on to show me he could use skills while either of them were piggyback. On another note, I have heard people complaining that you cant give your commerce partner a salary on Saturday/She takes the money but her disposition remains the same.

Godwrath1 (talk)04:25, 17 October 2012
 

Wait, there are people who are able to give her a salary at all? (Albeit one that doesn't give disposition.) And I'm sorry, I'm out of possible explanations. =S

Pyro - (Talk)05:09, 17 October 2012

I cant say for certain, on account of me not witnessing it first-hand. All I can be certain of is that i talked to two people who claimed that they gave her money and received nothing for it. On another side note, I find it incredibly irritating that the commerce partner has a robe equipment slot yet you cannot gift her a robe.

Godwrath1 (talk)06:01, 17 October 2012
 

Commerce partners do not have salaries. Also their double gathering is unlocked past 200 disposition and they do not have triple gathering at all.

Aubog007 (talk)06:35, 17 October 2012
 

Can you ask the person who was capable of paying her a salary if her stress level changed at all after paying? Or if nothing change besides money loss? (Or if you even lose your money.)

Pyro - (Talk)13:01, 17 October 2012
 

Commerce partner has no salary button at all. Nada. Zilch. You can't pay a salary unless he is thinking of the ducat favor quest.

Aubog007 (talk)17:54, 17 October 2012
 

Did you read what Godwrath said? He said that some people still get a button but don't get any disposition gain. Likewise, some people can fight her on your back.

Pyro - (Talk)19:16, 17 October 2012
 

I would like to see proof of this button? I mean it's not hard to have a SS.

Make sure it's modless too. Because i don't see how this is a server error.

Aubog007 (talk)04:47, 19 October 2012
 
 
 

I just tested dismounting the commerce partner with a bunch of different weapon/armor/clothes combinations on myself and on her. I even tried completely naked with nothing in my hands and she still wouldn't dismount

Godwrath1 (talk)06:06, 17 October 2012
 

So I just tested fighting while mounted with commerce partner with a fixed xml, it still didn't let me fight with her on my back. (And it took away her running animation since its not defined for every female human.) So it's probably not a mod that caused your friend's abilities. Can you ask if you can see them do it first hand?

Pyro - (Talk)09:15, 21 October 2012

Not defined for every female human??! What?

 

By that I mean, you can't just make a 17 year old female human and get Commerce Partner's running animation since the server and animation.anievent(?) hasn't set normal females to use that animation over the regular running animations. So most of commerce partner's nongesture animations should stop working if you were to modify the files, unless you wait for a fix on NA's part to finish the menma AI server-sided. But the point is, changing her defined species type didn't allow people to fight while mounted, since Godwrath1 knows people who have been able to do that.

Pyro - (Talk)17:17, 21 October 2012

Completely lost, but don't really care about the subject of commerce partners. :c

 

Modding racedb.xml, as you said, does fix the weapon/shield glitch. But it doesn't let you fight while she's on your back and it robs her of her special running animation.

Pyro - (Talk)17:40, 21 October 2012
 

Thats just the thing. I have seen them do it first hand. I have been talking to the guy i saw do it and he claims that he can't. I came to the conclusion that when I saw him using combat skills with her on his back that it must have been due to some kind of lag. We ran a tests while running dungeons and it seems that this event only occurs while the commerce partner is dual wielding. It seems that her dismount animation gets stuck. We were able to recreate the event only once and it had to do with a dual wielding partner dismounting, then him immediately using windmill. But like I said we could only make it happen once so that might not be what caused it. IF anyone else can recreate it some other way please let me know.

Godwrath1 (talk)16:19, 27 October 2012