Talk:Transformation Diary

I suspect that mobs in advancement tests can never be collected. I'm not yet confident enough of this suspicion to add it to the page, so putting it in the discussion.

Hi, i was doing the Gen 15 quest where Portia makes you go into Rabbie Dungeon to get the skull and when i killed one of the Red Skeletons, it counted as a Skeleton Squad, anyone know if they count as that or was it just coz they were in the boss room it thought they were a different mob?

does it use the old super blurry model or the new high res model? also does he have his short sword?

Soo running Rabbie adv, and basic...not a single collect from anything o-e...Any ideas what's up?

Have you tried checking their name with Collect Mode on?

I get the usual "Complete" thingy.

Whats your success rate?

(19 x 1.5) + 5

ha nevermind...hunting the wrong skeletons/very very bad luck. Not sure why it showed up as complete on the white ones for rabbie basic :s. started grabbing collects near the end.

/nexonpercentagesqq

Apparently, now you can move as Blade Wyvern, but you get bungee jumped back to your original position when you move far away.

Which part is glitched? The ability to move, or getting warped backward?

Do other players see you attempt to move? If so, then rubberbanding. If not, then being able to move client-side.

I saw someone move as BW.

Did they rubberband too? The rubberbanding is probably a glitch either way.

I wasn't really paying attention, I just saw it moving past my sight.

yeah they move now o-o.

I hope they allow movement in goddess trans soon, or at the very least give Macha some idle animations. As cool as her trans is, just standing there at attention is meh

Do you guys see rubberbanding in the Wyverns?

I just saw one today and I have NEVER EVER seen this guy in my entire life. Searches only lead here.

Who the hell is this guy?

I'm assuming you're talking about this thread.

If not, I suggest to take a look at it.

Yeah, that guy. Who is he, just some random dude?

My guess is it's an NPC for an event NA never had.

Shoot me if I'm wrong but Devon was an NPC we were suppose to have for some event. I can't recall which one, but we got Caravan Joe in Dev's place(?). That's what I think.

Since Devon is an Astrologer, wasn't he used in this event?

Probably that's the one I was thinking of, but I never was never around for that event.

And yet no one recorded it?!

I wasn't around at the time so no...surely you were there...or kev...maybe even LittleSnow if they had it in EU...

Judging from the way the page was written, I'd say the wiki was still in its developmental stages when everyone started to actually settle into Mabinogi NA.

Wouldn't it be easier to put "Gesture" in Skill List rather than Notes?

So, I'm not sure if it needs changed or not, but on the diary it says 'Can't normal attack' However I'm not sure her 'smash' can be used either, should it be changed to 'can't attack at all' Or am I missing something?

Merrow does have an animation for Smash, so she probably can use it. She doesn't have one for Normal Attacks though.

I am currently trying to use her smash to no avail. She targets an enemy and moves in like she is going to use the skill, but other then that nothing happens, the skill is not used.

Ah. I don't have her yet, but it seemed so reasonable for her Smash to work.

Neat trick: if you trans during the normal/combat mode changing animation, Prairie/Desert/Red Dragon will appear flying.

I wanna know though, is this a bug? If not, should we put it in the notes?

I don't think Red Dragon is able to fly. o-o

But to add onto that, if you bot bomb a Desert Dragon (Not sure about Prairie, never tested it) and the person fails the bot bomb, then it'll appear as flying also.

It has to do with how dragons work.

Oh?

I notice that I don't see "Cichol" and a few others at all in my Transformation Diary. Could it be possible that they are not yet implemented, or are those certain NPCs separated from the rest in being able to see their Transformation Diary Information?

That sounds extremely absurd... Can someone test it against Beach of Scathach mobs?

I do not have the Transformation to test this, but it is supposed to be +80% of your Base Protection, not +80% Protection.

As in, if you had 10 Protection, it would become 18 (10 x 1.8 = 18), not 90.

Unless you already knew that and it was what you were referring too.

It's in-fact even less. All of the Percent bonuses are ONLY for the collection bonuses. Which means, even with all of the protection type monsters collected, turning into one would only add a total of 16.2 (9+7.2) prot. That's still a lot if you stack it with other protection bonuses but it's nowhere near overpowered on it's own.

Could the "Applies to" column of the NPC Transformation Table be deleted? I don't see a point to it as each NPC is one of their own.

Yeah. It wont be there when I do the NPC table next.

It says that under some monsters like Dragons, Giant Alligator, etc. How does that work? O-o

Let me double check this now...

Oops. My bad on the %'s. I had them correct earlier, then I unconsciously made a change and somehow they ended all being 100%.

Oh, I see what happened with the Shamala thing. Reached an non-existant line. Let me clean that up.

Actually, no it's not non-existant.. it's just at the bottom of the file. why is reading that.. da fuuuu?

Just A heads up I already nearly finish that [1] for monsters and [2]for NPC's unfortunately since it's a game-file rip I don't think we can use it on the main wiki still it may be useful for personal reference.

I think we're allowed to use data harvested from the game, just not that from the test server and no copy/pasting.

Well the data is kinda copied from the JP files and pasted into a mabitable. But yeah it's processed to such an extent the actual XML is no longer visible.
As long as an admin gives the green light guess I can keep my work...
And yes I've been aware of both Nexon's and the Wiki's policy of anti test server info sharing for awhile you'd be surprised just how many times people have been scolded for leeking info from the test server...

I wouldn't take my advice as a green light. You should ask some of the high up admins first.

Ah I will see to that.
Any news on why this policy was implemented? I mean I'd hate to see 1000's of page brought down just because a small bit of game file XML is visible...
also things like weapon splash data would be near impossible to get without the use of game files...

No idea.

The pages probably wont be brought down, although it will need to converted into a form we're allowed to use, and remove the info we're not (apparently, we can't have the IDs displayed. Why? no idea. Not like you can even do anything with the IDs). Chances are, they'll be put back into key=value form.

It's truly sad to see all your everyone's hard work being undone but I guess these thing will happen I'll do what I can to convert all the pages over to the whatever the newest template is. I hope to see-ya again in the future this wiki really wouldn't be the same place without ya...

Maybe we should just use Laden's old work? It's a lot more complete and a lot less work.