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Curse

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Last edit: 13:46, 2 January 2014

Since the Saga, is it possible that Tarlach's and Ruairi's cursed got switched around?

  • Tarlach getting "I see someone who will have to give up everything": ever since he sealed himself up in his frosty prison he pretty much had lost his life and couldn't do anything aside from change into a bear and eat mana herbs, not to mention that Cichol made him give up mana. During Saga he gave up humanity to betray Milletians and he sacrificed everything - his present life, his memories, his research, etc. - to drive away Macha before turning into a kid.
  • Ruairi getting "There's also one who will live in physical and mental agony forever": the trauma of losing Rian and Triona had a deep effect on his mind and fighting off the curse and everyone in his way would be affecting his body. Millia's appearance also plays mind tricks with Ruairi, and her "betrayal" could have had more mental affects on him. And, finally, his prosthetic arm probably leads to more effects on physical agony.
  • Obviously neither of them got "There's also someone who gets what he or she wants but won't be able to handle it", since Tarlach never got his paradise and Ruairi never got his Triona.
Infodude575 (talk)10:43, 2 January 2014

Wasn't get what he or she wants, but wont be able to handle it Mari? You'd think Tarlach would have sorted Ruairi out on all the details he misunderstood or something.

Meru (talk)12:50, 2 January 2014

I think Mari is the one who gives up everything since she gave up being a human and her own will to the gods. Tarlach is the one who suffers physical and mental agony for all eternity: this one is pretty easy since he went from having the curse of being a bear during the day, to forcibly aging himself then forcibly regressing his age and his mental state back to a 10 year old, while He has to realize he doesn't have the power to save the erinn and those who inhabit it. Lastly Ruari who gets what he wants but won't be Able to handle it, and this is easy to pin point since Ruari typically wanted power to protect those who was precious to him and the power to defy his destiny. (though we don't know his true destiny is, it could vary from dying or serving under the gods) But we can really understand why he can't handle this power, since even though he gains a lot of power over the generations, it seems he's never been able to master it or truly control it a good , since no matter how much power he gets he's never been able to master it. The easiest way to figure this out is during his roleplay as a dragon knight in g18 how he wields a huge weapon at his size is impressive, but he swings it around like a blunt weapon, slowly and inefficiently, not only that it seems that he hasn't learned a variance in skills besides magic and he forgets basic things like making a campfire. If he had actually used a weapon that was more suited for him he could actually be a more excellent swordsman.

Fuas (talk)22:12, 7 May 2014
 

Like I said, "get what he or she wants but won't be able to handle it" is neither Ruairi nor Tarlach, since they never did get what they wanted. Mari, on the other hand, was dying to know the truth of her birth and parents (and funny enough it literally happened) and had trauma over her, which is why she refuses to speak about her past.

We don't exactly know all the details of what Tarlach told Ruairi. The only thing we get is that Tarlach told Ruairi that there's a possibility of resurrecting Triona using Lia Fail, and their past conversations just stop right there.

Infodude575 (talk)13:42, 2 January 2014
 

Okay, so, what exactly are you trying to get at. I don't see the switch.

Meru (talk)13:56, 2 January 2014
 
 
 
Ruairi was "someone who will have to give up everything"; he decided to back down from being a Paladin and after he lost his friends and Rian, he gave up his Humanity and belief in Morrighan to become a Dark Knight.
 

 

 
 
Tarlach was the "one who will live in physical and mental agony forever"; he was fatally wounded from Morgant's attack and sealed himself within the deepest part of Sidhe Sneachta. He constantly feeds on Mana Herbs in his Bear form in order to sustain his life (he is allergic to them in human form). He was also agonized by the loss of his friends and the fact that he could not see Kristell anymore.
 

 

At least that's what happened in Chapter 1. But because of Saga, the curse seems to have taken a whole another route.

Infodude575 (talk)14:07, 2 January 2014
 

I've always question the page's referral of the curses. I always thought that Mari is the one who will have to give up everything because she had to give up her previous loli life and turn into Nao and become the Soul Stream's errand girl and an MMORPG's mascot. Ruairi should have been the one who gets what he or she wants but won't be able to handle it because he gets the Dark Knight power but he gets whacked by the Milletian and abducted by Cromm Cruaich. Tarlach is obviously in physical and mental agony because he can't survive outside while not in Bear form and needs Mana Herbs to live.

Also this is Morgant's prediction. The past of the heroes shouldn't have mattered, and I think Ruairi didn't care about not having become a Paladin. Besides, that wasn't "everything" for him anyway.

鍾国豪-BIassreiter (talk)15:14, 2 January 2014
 

Mari might also have been "physical and mental agony" due to all that changes to her body, her dead parents, her presumably dead friends, her guardian angel status, her loner status, how Morrighan was being an ass to Milletians and Mari couldn't do anything about it, and so forth.

What if Morgant jinxed the curses so that it not only affected one of them, but all of them?

Infodude575 (talk)15:32, 2 January 2014
 

Either way, it's wrong to say any one of them is any one of the three curses. If it is said anywhere, it should be undone immediately as that is player interpretation.

Kapra - (Talk)00:40, 3 January 2014
 

I hate how these DevCAT mysteries keep themselves locked up and refusing to shed some light on themselves...

Infodude575 (talk)01:08, 3 January 2014