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Earlier discussions have been archived. --- Angevon (Talk) 02:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Differentiating Classic and Ascended Spirit Weapons021:55, 5 December 2019
Social Level Glow Color Image Update114:12, 5 October 2015
Spirit Weapon Experience007:30, 14 June 2014
Fire Wand Ego Stats409:28, 21 January 2014
Berched spirit weapon transfer?417:20, 28 July 2013
Transferring and reforges1411:47, 24 May 2013
Ego Healing wand heal bonus.318:38, 3 September 2012
Scimitar114:23, 1 July 2012
Multiple Transfers114:26, 24 June 2012
G15S4 Cylinder Egos1814:38, 1 June 2012
Cylinder Spirit Incarnation017:56, 27 May 2012
Cylinder Ego Repairs...301:09, 27 May 2012
Transfering egos..214:54, 25 May 2012
Transferring spirits.315:16, 20 May 2012
Repairing w/ Fomor Weapons013:12, 5 May 2012
Transfer same spirit on weapon with the right dura.219:59, 3 May 2012
Putting a Gallery for full body pictures?301:05, 24 November 2011
Original Durability306:37, 12 November 2011
Ego Weapon Repair Rates015:32, 8 November 2011
G15 egos weren't implemented1303:20, 8 November 2011
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Differentiating Classic and Ascended Spirit Weapons

Similar to the chapter 1 renewal this information now only applies to classic spirit weapons, and not those converted or created starting with G24. Because of this, I have changed the name of the page and replaced the header to reflect the actual "feature removed" status and created a "spirit ascension" page specifically for documenting the updated information while minimizing any potential confusion between the two systems. It would also be appreciated if all further updates and information on the subject are directed to the new page created specifically for the G24 version of this feature.

Breaker0 (talk)19:36, 5 December 2019

Social Level Glow Color Image Update

I went and updated the image displaying which colors are for which social levels. I made a couple of different versions...

... in case somebody thinks an alternate version would be better for some reason.

Rydian (talk)16:04, 1 October 2015

The one you chose to put on the page looks the best to me. Thanks!

Blargel (talk)14:12, 5 October 2015
 

Spirit Weapon Experience

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HvZlZjnrsMxoqoJvP3qmgnaG-wu6QQL09myCa3CSgfM/edit#gid=0

Someone should add this data to one of the spirit weapon pages. Internet access here is pretty limited.

-Kaeporo (talk)07:30, 14 June 2014

Fire Wand Ego Stats

Do the stats affect magic in any way, with the exception of Social and Chaincast? It boosts the physical weapon stats... which seems to be completely useless...

Kirbysama (talk)01:12, 20 January 2014

Weapon and str-based attack rate effects damage of all magic skills besides Hailstorm, though I do think Wand Egoes effect things other than jsut Chaincast for the basic three. I do not remember how or where that was found.

Kapra - (Talk)02:00, 20 January 2014
 

Str affects Magic damage of the same element to a certain degree (or healing if a healing wand is ego'd). There isn't a known formula.

All other stats function normally for balance, injury (lol...), and critical.

ベリサ・マイルスター (talk)08:57, 20 January 2014
 

So for basic wands, I can expect some unspecified magic damage increase, but no casting speed or mp reduction, right?

Kirbysama (talk)01:06, 21 January 2014
 

Healing wand has some Mp reduction to some degree.

ベリサ・マイルスター (talk)09:28, 21 January 2014
 

Berched spirit weapon transfer?

I noticed a few times that Berched will also do the spirit transfer thing. What sort of transfer does he do? I don't have the funds right now to test it myself.

Meru (talk)16:46, 28 July 2013

Berched gives the brief details on transferring a spirit - as described in his book - while Tarlach uses this knowledge to do the actual process.

Kiyoura (talk)17:13, 28 July 2013
 

If you have all the materials though, he asks you to pick a weapon to use the transfer magic on.

Meru (talk)17:16, 28 July 2013
 

What are the materials he requires? If it is the same materials as Tarlach's, it may be possible that he does the same transfer.

Kiyoura (talk)17:19, 28 July 2013
 

Yeah, it's the same stuff.

Meru (talk)17:20, 28 July 2013
 

Transferring and reforges

If I spirit transfer an ego from one weapon to another, does the new spirit weapon have the reforges of the new weapon?

Doomsday31415 (talk)07:07, 23 May 2013

Okay, then does it have the reforges of the old weapon then?

Doomsday31415 (talk)18:30, 23 May 2013
 

It's a blank reforge, meaning it can be reforged again.

 

So it doesn't have the reforges of EITHER weapon? That's lame...

Doomsday31415 (talk)19:06, 23 May 2013
 

You'll get a clean, base stat weapon upon returning the weapon to you. Same colors, dyes, etc. Just no reforges. I mean this is good for those spirit dye-only flashys, but other than that, you're wasting social lvls just for reforges :x

You do get the weapon back with its reforges.

  • And the weapon you change into a Spirit weapon also keeps its reforges.
LittlesnowEU (talk)23:41, 23 May 2013
 

Do you? I've never really reforged anything I ego, so I thought I got it back unforged. :x That sort of clear it up?

Yeah, reforges never change when transferring, the fact that some people eventually ended up with a blank Rank 3 Reforge ego was because of a bug, which was fixed a few weeks before Fine and Credne Reforges were implemented.

LittlesnowEU (talk)00:06, 24 May 2013
 

Wait...is the reforge the same as it is on the ego? or prior to that? I'm not sure...and yeah I heard about that when reforges first came out.

Uh, I don't really get what you are asking, but let's say you have the following:

  • Regular Gladuis - Smash Damage Level 3 Reforge.
  • Spirit Bastard Sword - Max Injury Rate Level 2 Reforge.

After transfering, this becomes:

  • Spirit Gladius - Smash Damage Level 3 Reforge.
  • Regular Bastard Sword - Max Injury Rate Level 2 Reforge.

Dunno if that cleared anything up.

LittlesnowEU (talk)00:47, 24 May 2013

You're sure of this?

It's what I originally expected to be the case, but I wanted to make sure.

Doomsday31415 (talk)07:33, 24 May 2013

I'm 100% sure, I have a lot of spirit transfers behind me.

LittlesnowEU (talk)10:35, 24 May 2013

Awesome, thanks!

Maybe I'll transfer to a rank 1 wing bow... it'll save me millions on reforges :D

Doomsday31415 (talk)11:47, 24 May 2013
 
 
 

Well that explains ego transfers...I'm guessing it applies to weapon type switching to?

 
 
 
 

Ego Healing wand heal bonus.

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Last edit: 18:38, 3 September 2012

Looking around in the DLLs and noticed the following. At the following social levels, the following boost is given to Healing when using a healing wand ego.

Social 1-4 5-9 10-14 15-19 20-24 25-29 30-34 35-39 40+
Bonus 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
-- Tylian (TALK · CONTRIB)16:56, 10 January 2011

Huh, so it changes every 5 levels. Does it say anything else? Like how the ego's Mana Usage Reduction increases?--Iyasenu 19:58, 10 January 2011 (PST)

Iyasenu19:58, 10 January 2011
 

I don't think Mana usage increases. That's just a boost to the amount healed, like how you get +5 points if using a healing wand.

-- Tylian (TALK · CONTRIB)01:33, 13 January 2011
 

Oh I'm sure Mana Use goes down as the social level of a healing wand increases, in addition to getting a bonus to healing. I've got my own ego to test it.

With nothing on, other than my ego, rank 1 party healing uses 68 MP to cast, instead of the full 80. That's at social 22, though. At 21, it was slightly more mana, but still reduced from normal.

Iyasenu18:29, 13 January 2011
 

Can anyone confirm that Scimitars can be made into a spirit weapon? I've seen a lot of controversy, along with fake stats in 2 different locations. I would greatly appreciate if anyone has tried it in NA and could provide input.

Useless16:52, 14 June 2012

Nevermind; I've finally gathering finished the resources needed to check myself. I added the level 1 stats to the page, although I probably won't be adding the rest.

Useless14:23, 1 July 2012
 

Multiple Transfers

Is it possible to transfer a spirit more than one time.

As in, lets say I wanted to recover a Wing Bow from its ego form as it is a rare weapon, but I wanted to make a blunt ego instead.

Tellos13:54, 24 June 2012

I asked something very similar. You will lose a ton of stats x.x

S•A•R•I•A14:26, 24 June 2012
 

G15S4 Cylinder Egos

Not quite sure where the future content section would go, but I've got the NPC portraits for both male/female cylinder egos.

kaede-kit (Talk)20:13, 3 November 2011

dere you go. put a red section for you. :D.

 

Thank you. :D

kaede-kit (Talk)20:15, 3 November 2011
 

What about Roll Cake Cylinders?

Pyro - (Talk)20:26, 3 November 2011
 

Whoa...Tower cylinder ego? o.o that seems hard to believe :x if a person did not complete all out attack, but egos a tower cylinder, would the bonuses still apply? (my initial answer is no.)

LexisMikaya11:13, 7 November 2011
 

You would think they would but I am not entirely sure at all. We'll put a pin in this conversation until more information arises.

The Paladin Slayer03:51, 9 November 2011
 

I have confirmed that cylinder egos add range and damage on top of the cylinders current (including towers), but still don't know if the bonus applies. I too am curious about that since my alchemist is stuck on Buchanan in the shadow realm....

Haven92321:58, 5 January 2012

Lemme guess. HM?

The Paladin Slayer10:37, 7 January 2012
 

No, only advanced. Leymore just loves dying. Seems the first time wasn't enough, lol.

Haven92318:45, 7 January 2012
 

Cai keeps dying for me, they want to suicide.

Sakura50222:50, 7 January 2012
 

Well here's a combo breaker.

Take bandages...lots of them. They'll use life drain to heal. After you clear a room heal them up.

Besides mine was on adv and I didn't have an RA to help either.

Not showing off but well, yeah.

The Paladin Slayer20:44, 8 January 2012
 

You could just trap them behind the door, but stay close to the proximity of the door. They'll warp inside the room if you stray to far.

Mikaya21:26, 8 January 2012

That causes the player to do 100% of the work. The NPCs were made to help.

The Paladin Slayer16:53, 10 January 2012
 

They're not much of a help if I have to get agroed just to save they're butts.

Sakura50217:04, 10 January 2012
 

Oh alright :D ima try that.

Sakura50210:56, 9 January 2012
 

If you're on mari and having trouble I'm an available RA.

Aeril14:38, 1 June 2012
 

Call me crazy but it looks like you are better off egoing a cylinder if you are a fire alchemist...is 78% really the actual bonus o.e?

S•A•R•I•A12:58, 20 May 2012
 

78% on normal cylinder, yes. Been proven/tested.

Pyro - (Talk)13:44, 20 May 2012
 

Cylinder Spirit Incarnation

Can somebody add onto the other ego incarnations? Like, the image on the top right...

Zey17:56, 27 May 2012

Cylinder Ego Repairs...

Edited by author.
Last edit: 00:59, 27 May 2012

[Blanked]

S•A•R•I•A23:27, 26 May 2012

Delete this thread, abusable glitch. x .x

Pyro - (Talk)00:34, 27 May 2012
 

Neh...was unaware :x

S•A•R•I•A00:58, 27 May 2012
 

Throwing this out there but according to my friend, it doesn't work :x

S•A•R•I•A01:09, 27 May 2012
 

Transfering egos..

if you transfer and red and black llb ego into a regular one, i know u get the bow back and its base grade but will it still be red and black?

Jpalmss01:58, 25 May 2012

Should be.

Zugon (Talk | contribs)02:55, 25 May 2012
 

Yes, you get the identical base weapon back.

Simpet14:54, 25 May 2012
 

Transferring spirits.

I'm a bit lost...so if you want to transfer to the same weapon type (sword to sword) you will have the weapon returned to you? I want to clarify since I'm thinking about getting a my cutlass and putting an ego into that.

S•A•R•I•A13:05, 20 May 2012

Yes,only if they're both the same weapon type and you use Tarlach.

Pyro - (Talk)13:46, 20 May 2012
 

all right...so if I want to save the item, I could change it to another throw away weapon then switch it to a new type right?

S•A•R•I•A13:51, 20 May 2012
 

Yes, but a lot of stats will be lost in the process.

Pyro - (Talk)15:16, 20 May 2012
 

Repairing w/ Fomor Weapons

Q: If I repair an ego with the fomorian weapon variant, will the ego accept it?

Infodude57513:08, 5 May 2012

Transfer same spirit on weapon with the right dura.

I have a leather long bow ego and I want to transfer it to a colored leather long bow problem is the leather long bow had one less dura than the requiremnent. Does the spirit transfer on the same weapon still has to have the right dura applied? Example: The colored bow I have is 3/8 and the dura for ego is 9.

Jragon017:32, 11 April 2012

Yes it follows the same rules as making a spirit weapon. Only thing you can do is hope we get another event that gives out those Durability hammers.

Ebrithil of Ruari19:44, 2 May 2012
 

I see well I hunt another bow so now it's alright.

Jragon019:59, 3 May 2012
 

Putting a Gallery for full body pictures?

I have all of them after searching though my Mabinogi Art folder on my laptop x.x...think it'd be appropriate to incorporate them on here?

LexisMikaya18:46, 6 August 2011

Made a page for this since it was bugging me for 3 months now...see here.

LexisMikaya00:54, 24 November 2011
 

Well done. You'll be well appreciated for this, Lexis.

I, for one, was curious of their full-body image.

Infodude57500:57, 24 November 2011
 

lol no problem.

All NPCs have full body portraits that exist somewhere...I just remember googling "Mabinogi Full Body Ego Portraits" or something of the latter and found a zip archive.

whether these ego portraits got released in an art book, or the korean site, I do not know. Perhaps the artist has a blog somewhere?

LexisMikaya01:05, 24 November 2011
 

Original Durability

To which do original durability apply? the normal state of the weapon or if it has boosted max durability from blacksmithing, that durability?

Dragon37211104:40, 12 November 2011

The max durability of the weapon, including extra dura from smithing.

Kurodo05:42, 12 November 2011
 

Thought it was Stock dura.

Aubog00706:31, 12 November 2011
 

Well that narrows it down and helps alot...

Dragon37211106:37, 12 November 2011
 

Ego Weapon Repair Rates

Rates have changed, since G14 I think. The max repair rate now goes up to 100%, could someone find the new repair rate tables and update them for the ego section of each egoable weapon? All of the pages still say 99% max, and have the old data.

Kirbysama15:32, 8 November 2011

G15 egos weren't implemented

Have been trying to spirit transfer(both Dorren and Tarlach) my previous claymore into any of the newly implemented weapons and none seem to work. About to try to create an ego out of one on an alt just to see if it's a glitch with transfer system(which seems to work fine) but yea needs more confirmation

Raekono05:01, 5 November 2011

War sword doesn't work, I'm guessing none of the new g15 egos work at the moment. So far i know that the only way to ego the new ones is to hack but I'm not about to hack mabi just to get an ego.

Dragon37211105:42, 5 November 2011
 

Geez that sucks. I thought the point of the Imp's Gift Box was to get colored weapons specifically for ego-making.

Angevon (Talk)06:33, 5 November 2011
 

HLB ego works.

Bidica07:49, 5 November 2011
 

I'll go down the list of newly implemented weps and see what all doesn't work after I spam a bit for the double rainbow

Raekono08:18, 5 November 2011
 

Only a few ego weapons were implemented because we're in S1. More will be added in S2 and on.

@Raekono, know what you're doing. Nexon implements future data into itemdb even if it isn't out. I.E. You will find Ego Dragon Fang, although it cannot be egoed yet. Therefore, I do not recommend you to look it up unless you know what you're doing. You will end up putting in false data.

 

Yes, but some of the egos Korea got in G15S1 aren't out now.

Pyro - (Talk)17:19, 5 November 2011
 

Also, try equipping the weapon you want to ego when attempting. Tarlach wouldn't allow me to ego my HLB until I had equipped it. That may be the problemo.

 

ok I was just referring to the various pages that said the weps were implimented and they weren't. I've tried a war sword and a Hlc had both equipped both 100prof (working on francisca and falcata). I was just trying to bring it to attention so the information can be fixed.

Raekono17:34, 5 November 2011
 

I guessed that too ikkiski, I have tried both tarlach and dorren with equipped and unequipped war sword. so that definately rules it out but your point i guess would prove that it needs to be equiped, best way would be to equip 2 egoable swords and try the transfer to see if it will give you option then try with one uneqipped to see if you still get 2 options. also, instead of trying transfer, shouldnt we just attempt going on non-ego character?

Dragon37211108:26, 7 November 2011
 
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Last edit: 18:58, 7 November 2011

So the only ego's implemented were Hlb, Arbalest, Glory Sword, and Dragon Fang.

Raekono18:12, 7 November 2011
 

That's what happens when you get sources from other servers.
Afaik, Glory Sword and Dragon Fang are not egoable until G15S2.

 

Well it's kind of my fault because I didn't pay attention to seasons when adding them onto the spirit weapon list.


Sorry guys.

Angevon (Talk)19:12, 7 November 2011
 

Well they will be implemented, we should just go through and put (g15s2) after the ones coming out then or after.

Dragon37211103:20, 8 November 2011
 
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