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Talk:Classic Spirit Weapons
Similar to the chapter 1 renewal this information now only applies to classic spirit weapons, and not those converted or created starting with G24. Because of this, I have changed the name of the page and replaced the header to reflect the actual "feature removed" status and created a "spirit ascension" page specifically for documenting the updated information while minimizing any potential confusion between the two systems. It would also be appreciated if all further updates and information on the subject are directed to the new page created specifically for the G24 version of this feature.
I went and updated the image displaying which colors are for which social levels. I made a couple of different versions...
- Black, light&codes: http://i.imgur.com/wDqHfVj.png
- Black, plain: http://i.imgur.com/EUCd7lr.png
- White, light&codes: http://i.imgur.com/nZazGUp.png
- White, plain: http://i.imgur.com/ISvBDLZ.png
... in case somebody thinks an alternate version would be better for some reason.
Someone should add this data to one of the spirit weapon pages. Internet access here is pretty limited.
Do the stats affect magic in any way, with the exception of Social and Chaincast? It boosts the physical weapon stats... which seems to be completely useless...
Weapon and str-based attack rate effects damage of all magic skills besides Hailstorm, though I do think Wand Egoes effect things other than jsut Chaincast for the basic three. I do not remember how or where that was found.
Str affects Magic damage of the same element to a certain degree (or healing if a healing wand is ego'd). There isn't a known formula.
All other stats function normally for balance, injury (lol...), and critical.
So for basic wands, I can expect some unspecified magic damage increase, but no casting speed or mp reduction, right?
I noticed a few times that Berched will also do the spirit transfer thing. What sort of transfer does he do? I don't have the funds right now to test it myself.
Berched gives the brief details on transferring a spirit - as described in his book - while Tarlach uses this knowledge to do the actual process.
If you have all the materials though, he asks you to pick a weapon to use the transfer magic on.
What are the materials he requires? If it is the same materials as Tarlach's, it may be possible that he does the same transfer.
If I spirit transfer an ego from one weapon to another, does the new spirit weapon have the reforges of the new weapon?
Okay, then does it have the reforges of the old weapon then?
It's a blank reforge, meaning it can be reforged again.
So it doesn't have the reforges of EITHER weapon? That's lame...
You'll get a clean, base stat weapon upon returning the weapon to you. Same colors, dyes, etc. Just no reforges. I mean this is good for those spirit dye-only flashys, but other than that, you're wasting social lvls just for reforges :x
You do get the weapon back with its reforges.
- And the weapon you change into a Spirit weapon also keeps its reforges.
Do you? I've never really reforged anything I ego, so I thought I got it back unforged. :x That sort of clear it up?
Yeah, reforges never change when transferring, the fact that some people eventually ended up with a blank Rank 3 Reforge ego was because of a bug, which was fixed a few weeks before Fine and Credne Reforges were implemented.
Wait...is the reforge the same as it is on the ego? or prior to that? I'm not sure...and yeah I heard about that when reforges first came out.
Uh, I don't really get what you are asking, but let's say you have the following:
- Regular Gladuis - Smash Damage Level 3 Reforge.
- Spirit Bastard Sword - Max Injury Rate Level 2 Reforge.
After transfering, this becomes:
- Spirit Gladius - Smash Damage Level 3 Reforge.
- Regular Bastard Sword - Max Injury Rate Level 2 Reforge.
Dunno if that cleared anything up.
You're sure of this?
It's what I originally expected to be the case, but I wanted to make sure.
Last edit: 18:38, 3 September 2012
Looking around in the DLLs and noticed the following. At the following social levels, the following boost is given to Healing when using a healing wand ego.
Huh, so it changes every 5 levels. Does it say anything else? Like how the ego's Mana Usage Reduction increases?--Iyasenu 19:58, 10 January 2011 (PST)
I don't think Mana usage increases. That's just a boost to the amount healed, like how you get +5 points if using a healing wand.
Oh I'm sure Mana Use goes down as the social level of a healing wand increases, in addition to getting a bonus to healing. I've got my own ego to test it.
With nothing on, other than my ego, rank 1 party healing uses 68 MP to cast, instead of the full 80. That's at social 22, though. At 21, it was slightly more mana, but still reduced from normal.
Can anyone confirm that Scimitars can be made into a spirit weapon? I've seen a lot of controversy, along with fake stats in 2 different locations. I would greatly appreciate if anyone has tried it in NA and could provide input.
Is it possible to transfer a spirit more than one time.
As in, lets say I wanted to recover a Wing Bow from its ego form as it is a rare weapon, but I wanted to make a blunt ego instead.
Not quite sure where the future content section would go, but I've got the NPC portraits for both male/female cylinder egos.
dere you go. put a red section for you. :D.
Whoa...Tower cylinder ego? o.o that seems hard to believe :x if a person did not complete all out attack, but egos a tower cylinder, would the bonuses still apply? (my initial answer is no.)
You would think they would but I am not entirely sure at all. We'll put a pin in this conversation until more information arises.
I have confirmed that cylinder egos add range and damage on top of the cylinders current (including towers), but still don't know if the bonus applies. I too am curious about that since my alchemist is stuck on Buchanan in the shadow realm....
No, only advanced. Leymore just loves dying. Seems the first time wasn't enough, lol.
Well here's a combo breaker.
Take bandages...lots of them. They'll use life drain to heal. After you clear a room heal them up.
Besides mine was on adv and I didn't have an RA to help either.
Not showing off but well, yeah.
You could just trap them behind the door, but stay close to the proximity of the door. They'll warp inside the room if you stray to far.
Call me crazy but it looks like you are better off egoing a cylinder if you are a fire alchemist...is 78% really the actual bonus o.e?
if you transfer and red and black llb ego into a regular one, i know u get the bow back and its base grade but will it still be red and black?
I'm a bit lost...so if you want to transfer to the same weapon type (sword to sword) you will have the weapon returned to you? I want to clarify since I'm thinking about getting a my cutlass and putting an ego into that.
Yes,only if they're both the same weapon type and you use Tarlach.
all right...so if I want to save the item, I could change it to another throw away weapon then switch it to a new type right?
I have a leather long bow ego and I want to transfer it to a colored leather long bow problem is the leather long bow had one less dura than the requiremnent. Does the spirit transfer on the same weapon still has to have the right dura applied? Example: The colored bow I have is 3/8 and the dura for ego is 9.
I have all of them after searching though my Mabinogi Art folder on my laptop x.x...think it'd be appropriate to incorporate them on here?
Made a page for this since it was bugging me for 3 months now...see here.
Well done. You'll be well appreciated for this, Lexis.
I, for one, was curious of their full-body image.
lol no problem.
All NPCs have full body portraits that exist somewhere...I just remember googling "Mabinogi Full Body Ego Portraits" or something of the latter and found a zip archive.
whether these ego portraits got released in an art book, or the korean site, I do not know. Perhaps the artist has a blog somewhere?
To which do original durability apply? the normal state of the weapon or if it has boosted max durability from blacksmithing, that durability?
Have been trying to spirit transfer(both Dorren and Tarlach) my previous claymore into any of the newly implemented weapons and none seem to work. About to try to create an ego out of one on an alt just to see if it's a glitch with transfer system(which seems to work fine) but yea needs more confirmation
War sword doesn't work, I'm guessing none of the new g15 egos work at the moment. So far i know that the only way to ego the new ones is to hack but I'm not about to hack mabi just to get an ego.
Geez that sucks. I thought the point of the Imp's Gift Box was to get colored weapons specifically for ego-making.
I'll go down the list of newly implemented weps and see what all doesn't work after I spam a bit for the double rainbow
Only a few ego weapons were implemented because we're in S1. More will be added in S2 and on.
@Raekono, know what you're doing. Nexon implements future data into itemdb even if it isn't out. I.E. You will find Ego Dragon Fang, although it cannot be egoed yet. Therefore, I do not recommend you to look it up unless you know what you're doing. You will end up putting in false data.
Yes, but some of the egos Korea got in G15S1 aren't out now.
Also, try equipping the weapon you want to ego when attempting. Tarlach wouldn't allow me to ego my HLB until I had equipped it. That may be the problemo.
ok I was just referring to the various pages that said the weps were implimented and they weren't. I've tried a war sword and a Hlc had both equipped both 100prof (working on francisca and falcata). I was just trying to bring it to attention so the information can be fixed.
I guessed that too ikkiski, I have tried both tarlach and dorren with equipped and unequipped war sword. so that definately rules it out but your point i guess would prove that it needs to be equiped, best way would be to equip 2 egoable swords and try the transfer to see if it will give you option then try with one uneqipped to see if you still get 2 options. also, instead of trying transfer, shouldnt we just attempt going on non-ego character?
Last edit: 18:58, 7 November 2011
So the only ego's implemented were Hlb, Arbalest, Glory Sword, and Dragon Fang.
That's what happens when you get sources from other servers.
Afaik, Glory Sword and Dragon Fang are not egoable until G15S2.
Well it's kind of my fault because I didn't pay attention to seasons when adding them onto the spirit weapon list.